BAD day at the Mint??

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by penidave, Oct 1, 2009.

  1. penidave

    penidave PennyGirl

    1996 Lincoln has issues everywhere.. front and back..
    i will start with the back...
    "O" "N" and part of the "E" is RAISED and sitting below the normal "ONE" on the coin...the "C" "E" "N" "T" is RAISED and Sitting "on top" the rim of the coin.. turning the coin the "U" in "UNITED" is visible and is also RAISED.. any thoughts? thanks..
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  3. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    Nice fined!
     
  4. jcuve

    jcuve Lincoln variety fanatic

    My early thoughts are PMD. Some shots make me think a clash of some sort, but everything that is happening, especially in UNITED is more easily explained by PMD (i.e., the coin being pressed into another coin). Let's see what others say...
     
  5. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    wow.... what the heck is that???

    haha!!

    Can we get a full front and back picture???
     
  6. just coins

    just coins New Member

    I would say a possble die clash but I never seen something like this. I don't think it's post mint damage very strange specimen indeed and a very iinteresting find.I would also say it could be a lamination error not sure.
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  7. penidave

    penidave PennyGirl

    ok, i will work on more pictures.. brb
     
  8. rockdude

    rockdude Coin Collector

    If it's a die clash it's misaligned. Misaligned die clash.
     
  9. penidave

    penidave PennyGirl

    i have additional pic's i will load (12) so bare with me.. sorry so many pic's it's just very hard to explain what i see without them.
     
  10. penidave

    penidave PennyGirl

    i lowered the picture count to 9. everything i'm referring to is RAISED on the coin not incused/indented.. PMD can't be raised on a coin right? if it were PMD it would be indented or incused. there is also some indented/incused areas, these areas i am not referring to..
    should i submit this coin??
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    blue circles are what the RAISED area below it looks like (red circles)

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    the "T" in "CENT" is more on the side of the rim not the top... ???

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    on the front of the coin by the pink arrows inside the extra rim area there's more RAISED annomalies there also i just can't make it out. i'm not referring to anything incused on the coin. (drop number i have crossed out)

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  11. jcuve

    jcuve Lincoln variety fanatic

    The reverse still looks like PMD to me - it appears all banged up. As far as the obverse I am not sure, if those areas are raised (they look incuse) then I don't know.

    Don't submit it to anyone. Email the images to Mike Diamond the president of CONECA, or PM him and ask for his opinion first, if feels it warrants a in hand inspection he'll tell you.
     
  12. penidave

    penidave PennyGirl

    awesome advice regarding Mike Diamond (PM). i bit later today i will do that... i promise every part i'm questioning is 100% raised... that's what makes this so puzzeling to me. it's so compelling to look at in hand.. thanks again on the advice..

    Penny
     
  13. CashDude

    CashDude Member

    Looking at the letters UNITED, there is a line going across them that is pushed in. The letters are a low part of the die, so how could this happen? Looks like a squeeze job.
     
  14. penidave

    penidave PennyGirl

    i'm new to error coins and I even know that if it's RAISED it can't be PMD.. yes, there is some incusement (PMD) on the coin also, i have not referred to the incusement whatsoever. i'm referring to the parts of the coin which clearly show RAISED letters. the coin obviously has both mint error and PMD. i do not know what type of mint error it is called and this is my questioning. i have emailed Mike Diamond as advised and i guess i will wait to see what he has to say before i either submit the coin or spend it... lol
    thanks so much for all the opinions...
    :)
    Penny
     
  15. mikediamond

    mikediamond Coin Collector

    It's post-strike damage. It appears that a curved, textured implement was pressed into the coin several times, leaving softly defined, curved grooves and raised elements within those curved grooves. The appearance is totally incompatible with a genuine minting error.
     
  16. penidave

    penidave PennyGirl

    well, that's that, thanks Mike for your time and opinion...
    verdict: back into circulation it will go
     
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