I found this in a roll. As far as I know there are not any DDO's for this year. I may be wrong. There seems to be doubling on the 5 in the date. What do you guys think?
I agree, from the pics provided the notch on the 5 doesn't look correct. My feeling is either the was hit (PMD) or the die was damaged or maybe flawed somehow.
It is pretty widely split, and there is only one device affected, I'd say it is damage. too bad there weren't more areas affected, that made it hard to authenticate.
There is one doubled die (the eye I think) but not many for this date There is one doubled die (the eye I think) but not many (if any others) for this date - I know there is none that are very significant at all - it's one I rairly even look at.
Well, what caught my eye was the splitting on the 5. It is split open and does not look like damage to me. It looks mechanical in nature. So, some of you think it might be MD. Would it look like that? It is split at that part and looks like it has a doubled edge on the left of it all the way up.
That's a hit of some sought on the five that's all No doubling at all Md or Die deterioration doubling .JC
To my eyes it doesn't look like a notch, rather as has been stated, PMD. If that were a notch, it would be pretty big; there should also be noticeable extra thickness, a separation line and most probably other notches on that digit if not others. Plus the class of DDO should emerge and from what I see it this leads nowhere. However, the picture isn't large enough to blow up to see it in complete detail. Can you upload it to a Photobucket account or something so the file size is much larger and we can zoom in? I doubt I would change my mind but I would like to be able to see it more clearly.
Interesting. I was going to dismiss it until I saw the split 5 in the last pic. Too bad they don't zoom in any so I can't say anything for sure.
I think I figured this out. It is either master die doubling or something done on the master die when the number was engraved. It is on all the BU 1965 Lincolns I have, including a SMS coin. Here are two examples:
BINGO...That's the normal looking 5 that is on all 1965 cents. Also, JC made an excellent point about the hit on the 6. Thanks, Bill
Well, I came to this party a bit late - but I was going to say that the 5 definitely looked like true doubling to me. You see some evidence of this in the tail of the 5 also. I agree that there was apparently something in the master (and thus, the variety is worth no premium), and will only add that it appears like something on the 6 in jcuve's pictures as well.
Wow! Thank you guys very much for taking the time to figure it out. I thought I had something there. Oh, well. I will still keep it. As physics-fan3.14 said, there is doubling on the tail of the 5. It was the splitting part that caught my eye. At least I know my eyes are not playing tricks on me. Jessie
Please always remember "doubling does not a doubled die make"! Please always remember "doubling does not a doubled die make"! When many of us see any form of doubling we must first "prove it to ourselfs" and in connection with our own know body of evidence. We don't just see doubling with 2 seperate images and splits in serifs and say, "it's a doubled die". We combine that with known examples, what series it may be, what year is it in, what are already known, what are the die markers, what other elements on the coin suggest which class or form of doubled die is it, is it consentant with that type of or class of doubling, and always the most important thing is "what else could have caused this other than a doubled die"? """Remember, we call these coins doublED dies but the die is actually a doublED die before any coin is every struck"""!
