My Thoughts on the U.S Coin Market and Coin Market as a Whole

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by BNB Analytics, Sep 21, 2009.

  1. BNB Analytics

    BNB Analytics New Member

    Oh Mike that's not true. You can't say that about everyone..

    The coin market is a market. It is no different than a commodity market. You don't have to buy/sell coins like it is a trading market but we have to acknowledge that coins to generally raise in value. That's basic market principal.
     
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  3. BNB Analytics

    BNB Analytics New Member

    Good going, you took my words out of context. It's easy to do that.

    But entirely not fair to me, the op ;)

    I didn't say that the market is like the stock market in absolutes.

    I am only talking about the certain rising/falling in overall price for coins as a whole. That's all!

    And btw, technically, the coin market IS a commodity market. Just a very slow moving one.
     
  4. Cloudsweeper99

    Cloudsweeper99 Treasure Hunter

    I think the coin market has characteristics similar to the real estate market, where every property [coin] is at least a little different from the others even if it is in the same neighborhood [grade]. Stocks and commodities, by comparison, are sold in standard units where each one is identical to the next. This makes the market tougher to analyze.
     
  5. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    BNB - did you contact silvereagle82 like I asked you to ? Please, do. Ask him how he did in the beginning. Then ask him how many hours he thinks he's spent studying since he started. Then ask him where he thinks he is now knoweldge wise.

    It will be worth your while to do this.
     
  6. BNB Analytics

    BNB Analytics New Member

    But some of you are missing my overall point..

    Let's not fray from it, please I ask you nicely.


    Look, the rising and falling principal of price applies to the coin market long term. You can speculate very easily off these charts and say their is a steady overall upward progression by bulls and therefor year over year, this market is rising. That's not hard to understand.. So that is good news for all of us.
     
  7. BNB Analytics

    BNB Analytics New Member

    Yeah I'll contact him right now.

    I get where you're going with this, Doug and I have a lot of reading to do but for experimental purposes, I'm trying to see how well my experience as a trader correlates to the coin markets.

    I'll get on it though, thanks.
     
  8. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I'm not missing your point at all. In fact I agree with it to a degree. But it seems that you are completely ignoring my point. That being that we are in the beginning of a bear market. So what you have to analyze is how down it will fall before it starts back up again.

    As it is now, you are trying to catch a falling knife. And I know you are familiar with that phrase.
     
  9. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    Again, I disagree. Commodities, by definition, are all equal. For instance one oz of 99% pure gold = one oz of 99% pure gold. Whereas a MS 65 St. Gaudens is not necessarily equal in value to another MS 65 St. Gaudens.
     
  10. BNB Analytics

    BNB Analytics New Member

    Doug what's the link again? I'm having trouble locating it. Thanks
     
  11. BNB Analytics

    BNB Analytics New Member

    Well , we have a respectful disagreement because coins as a whole do show very similar patterns regular tradeable markets do.

    I won't go any further on this point, you've heard my opinion and I hope it helps some of you. Thanks!
     
  12. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    I apologize if I took your words out of context. That certainly was not my intent. However, I've seen you draw the parallel between the coin and stock markets several times, when (IMO) they couldn't be more different.
     
  13. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    I don't necessarily disagree with the above. I just caution you from drawing conclusions based on the similarities without taking into account the significant differences as well.
     
  14. BNB Analytics

    BNB Analytics New Member

    I appreciate your apology.

    We're talking in absolutes, are we not?

    That's where we're butting heads right now.
     
  15. BNB Analytics

    BNB Analytics New Member

    Right, I do take those into effect. That's why this is a "GENERAL" overview and not a very detailed one since you can't take into account all these variables and put them together and say they'll move in one steady rate.

    However, the overall market can.
     
  16. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    Fair enough. I won't belabor the point any longer, and appreciate your listening to my ramblings. :)
     
  17. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I didn't give you a link, that is his user name here on the forum. Just send him a PM, tell him I asked you to and asked you to ask him those questions.
     
  18. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    Why not post a thread, so the rest of us might look on (and learn from the discussion)...Mike
     
  19. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Mike the only point is for BNB to hear it from someone who has not been involved in these discussions. Someone who has only been involved in the coin market for a realtively short time.
     
  20. BNB Analytics

    BNB Analytics New Member

    Alright Doug, I contacted him with those exact questions. Thanks
     
  21. Phil Ham

    Phil Ham Hamster

    Boy, this is a serious thread. I'm a collector who collects coins for fun. I'm now reading about the value of coins based on the price of the stock market. Have we lost the love of just collecting coins? I hope not.
     
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