Well it can really depend on the quality of the pieces, and yes sometimes they may have been coated. Two hundred years ago te application of a thin coating of lacquer to protect the surfaces was not unusual. For example this piece I bought last night. Now the seller says that this piece has a thin layer of lacquer on it, but this series of tokens by Peter Kempson were struck by steam presses with polished blanks and dies and even by today standar they would be considered to be proofs. They do have reflective surfaces sharp detail and sharp squared off edges. and if they haven't been mishandled they really do look like this. This is a penny token so it is just a little smaller than a silver dollar and it is a 212 year old copper proof coin. And I will guarantee you it is not a counterfeit.
I picked up the Warwickshire 372 the seller was offering Yesterday I also received in the mail my previous purchase off of eBay - a Herefordshire #5 in an NGC66 suit.
jello - your token is Irish, made for the firm Camac, Kyan & Camac, a copper-mining company. The partners in the firm were Turner Camac, John Kyan and John Camac.
Wow.....got to love those hard surfaces with great luster on an old, old hunk of copper. Ain't Conders great? Congratulations, farthing. Wish I could see your collection someday.
It is id Rulau NY 1024 and Wright 104. The metal is brass and was issued in the 1850s. Rulau valued this token at $8 F, $11 VF, $20 EF & $50 Unc in his 4th edition (2004).
Very nice token!! I didn't even think a token could be a proof. Good info, anyone else got token pics?
Sorry, it does not say who William R. Brown was. I did a little searching on the internet but did not find anyone that I considered likely to be him.
I grew up in up state New York.about 50miles south of Saratoga and seen a few.and ask the owner of Albany W R Brown Own a few hardware store or a Salon if I rember right.It been to many year to be 100% sure.
I have been doing the same for many years now just wondering who the heck he was. Never understood the purpose of the token. I always thought it had something to do with horse racing or maybe a store.
I will call my aunt that still live near Albany and see if Mr Roy Green (coin shop owner) Albany Coin is still with us.I know I talked him around 2003,he called me after my mother had passed.I hope he still with us he has got be 90+ years old