1986 D foreign Planchet ??

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Rafique, Mar 10, 2021.

  1. Rafique

    Rafique RafMal

    hey people.. sup?
    got another coin for you guys, its a 1986 D Zincoln:banghead:
    i been trying to find out more on this coin but with no luck, the Rim is shaped triangular cuts going to the centre , app size 4mm by 1mm joined by oblique square pulled on ends forming a diamond shape longish . it weighs 2,5grm . let me no, thanks
     

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  3. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    DEFDAM - Definitely Damaged
    The edge was altered post mint.
    Not a Mint Error of any kind.
     
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  4. Robert Ransom

    Robert Ransom Well-Known Member

    Post mint damage, nothing more.
     
  5. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    Ditto , of course .:rolleyes:
     
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  6. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    Your pictures a dark and blurry. From what I can see I agree with paddy man, PMD.
    By the way paddy man, the detector we purchased is a Mine Lab Vanquish 540, hope we did okay? Thanks
     
  7. Spark1951

    Spark1951 Accomplishment, not Activity

    ...just a Zincoln that’s been dropped on its rim a hundred times or more...PMD...jmho...Spark
     
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  8. Rafique

    Rafique RafMal

    have you guys looked at the inner rim on the reverse
     

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  9. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    Yes. That's one of the numerous ways you can tell that it was damaged after it left the mint.

    Many of the members who responded are very knowledgeable of the minting process, They understand that the unusual features you're seeing couldn't occur at the mint.

    If you think it was struck on a foreign planchet, you need to determine the following:

    1. Was the US mint minting coins for other countries in 1986 and were they doing it at the Denver mint? If they weren't striking anything, how could a planchet get in the system
    2. If the did strike foreign coins at Denver, were any of those similar in size to a US cent? If a foreign planchet is larger than a cent it won't fit in the coining chamber and can't be struck
    3. If it was the same size as a cent, does it weigh the same as your coin?
    4. Does it have the same composition?

    Just because a coin looks different, doesn't mean it's an error. There are countless ways for a coin to be damaged in circulation. But there are only a limited number of ways an error can occur in a well documented process like coin production. Learning the minting process is the key.
     
  10. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Your coin is simple damage.
     
  11. JPD3

    JPD3 Well-Known Member

    PLC (Parking Lot Cent).
    Oldhoopster summed up error hunting in a nutshell. "Just because a coin looks different, doesn't mean it's an error. There are countless ways for a coin to be damaged in circulation."
     
  12. 1stSgt22

    1stSgt22 I'm just me! Supporter

    This at least is the second post from you where you asked people to look closer at a certain area of the coin you posted. I have a few thoughts for you to consider! 1. I believe these members look closely at all of the coins posted to make sure they don't miss anything. 2. If a coin is not listed anywhere as an error or variety, it probably isn't one and you should do that research before you post. 3. I try not to ever argue with an expert even if I think they are wrong, because they probably aren't!! 4. You need to make sure you post clear photos of the coins, obverse and reverse, and maybe a clear closeup of the area you are questioning, with an explanation of what you think you see! Hope this advise helps you in the future. Good Luck!
     
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  13. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    Not sure how many American cents you get in South Africa to compare with your damaged coin. You also need to ask yourself if it was struck on a foreign planchet, how would there be any features that would survive the strike and come out on the cent?
     
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  14. mike estes

    mike estes Well-Known Member

    hey Rafique I believe the guys above my post here have several years of experience on anything and everything about coins, A thru Z. i agree that what happend to your coin happend outside of the Mint. your pictures of the rim didn't come out clear, they are way out of focus and thats the area you want members to see. i wish i could give better news, good luck man
     
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  15. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Yes.. Still damaged.
     
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  16. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    In my original post I said it's damaged. After looking at this photo I can definitely state that with over 60 years of collecting coins your is definitely damage.
     
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  17. Rafique

    Rafique RafMal

    we do get lots of American coins i have about 1000 lincolns , that maybe still less, and have about 20 to 30m damaged coins, but non like this, 1 has to see this coins outer edge to understand, i suppose . but all good thanks
     
  18. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    If you can find a foriegn coin with the same design then show us. It's still an altered edge coin.
    I've seen many like yours in the 36 years of collecting mint errors.
     
  19. Rafique

    Rafique RafMal

    i will get back to you, thanks
     
  20. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Please do.. It's still a altered edge cent.
    Not a Mint Error.
     
  21. Rafique

    Rafique RafMal

    hey friend i found a coin from Swaziland that has the similar style planchet but the weight is off and i suppose the US mint never made any African coins, but im still searching. is there some way i can send you a video of the coin, maybe then you will have a better look to see what i mean.
     
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