Coin was in a 2x2 and someone tried to open the staples with a screwdriver and it slipped accross the obverse.
I would bet against post mint damage because if you look close you can see Lincoln's face in the missing portion of copper. you can also see a crack/separation line running back from the missing piece.
THE 1921 WAS LAMINATED? Looks like a gouge ribboned up (post mint) and got banged back down. But I'm just :bigeyes: lookin'.
That is very interesting how something managed to "gouge" this cent, but leave vestiges of Lincoln's chin, lips and cheek under the gouge. Someone would have had to literally recarve these features.
Also if a gouge did some damage by sliding across a coin the area wouldn't be smooth , there would be ridges from where the metal was ripped up and pulled off , this coins area is smooth with details of Lincoln under it as stated by others . rzage
Hoping to learn here I guess my 1st point was: How do you get a lamination error on a coin that was not laminated? I thought pre 1982 cents were produced without lamination. Rim! You have a nice "Woody" collection. Does the "Wood" only live on the surface? (BTW~did I ever tell you about the day Steve McQueen let me drive his Victor 441? Awesome machine!:thumb:....but it was on a weekend in California some years back...and it was out in the desert...and there were lots of cacti around...and he didn't care when I crashed it...nor did I....I think) Might have been the '60'shya:
I was looking at the furthest right side of the initial gouge. I can seen how the nose may have lifted invasion, but not figure "underside" of the insertion.
It's not laminated, as in cladding. Sometimes the metal wasn't mixed properly or contaminants in the copper caused problems. Hopefully someone with more knowledge than me will explain better and make it easier to understand.
Its not laminated in the sense that you are thinking like the clad layers of the post 82 cents. This is more like a defect in the base metal used for the coin. The way I think about it is like a check in a piece of lumber. THe way the metal was prepared prior to being used as a coin something interfered with process causing a weak plane where the metal crystals don't bond as they should and the metal flakes away.
Well, they were not laminated on purpose, anyway. The most common explanation I have seen is that there was air in the alloy, but any impurity may be capable of causing separation of the metal. As for the woodies, yes, the true graining goes completely through the coin. That is not to say each mark is visible on both sides of the coin, but that each area of a graining has an equivalent on the opposite side. And, no, you have never mentioned Steve McQueen let alone crashing his car - that I have seen. That sounds like it might be worth a separate thread in the general discussion forum.
Lamination peel. Lamination usually runs through the rolled copper. If you look at the left side of the coin, you can see the lamination continuing across the whole coin. The area on the right peeled out, but the lamination is still visible on the left side of the obverse.
The Victor 441 was a thumper motorcycle. I grew up just downstream from a coke making, cold rolling & pig iron producing steel mill and my family had family friends working there that preferred not to talk about production during the "duck & cover" daze. But I've heard that the outside of a slug may be different from the inside of a slug. I just never thought of that as "lamination". And I suppose the only time their product was used in coinage would be 1943. Might be one reason I respect those cents..... Now that I can return to the old home town but no longer walk on the water of the Ohio I think~ Glad they moved that to China!
