VDB - My personal genealogical "provenance" that wasn't!

Congratulations Evan, well done! Very enjoyable reading.

 

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Saltis is a surname of Greek origin aswell. Migrations originally from Greece (i don't remember exactly when) lead to these similarities. Lithuanian is among the 'oldest' languages in the world still spoken.

https://www.lithuaniastrong.com/blo...est-languages-still-spoken-in-the-world-today

 

Don't worry, I understand the Polish research too. In some regions I researched records were in Polish or German because the stronger influence,

 

That really is great. My Franco family moved to Lewiston, Maine in the early 1910s. A community FULL of Francos! My grandparents speak french in the home, even as a first language.

 

Agreed! ...well, except for numismatics!!!

 

I've been wondering that for some time, how Lithuanian names are similar to Greek ones. I've had some Lithuanian friends over the years including a current co-worker. I wonder if "Saltis" is a corruption of "Psaltis", meaning a chanter (church singer). It could very well be...

 

Šaltis comes from the Lithuanian word for cold or frost, which is spelled the same way. Pronounced Shaltis with the accent.

Santa Claus in Lithuania is Senelis Šaltis, or "grandfather cold" literally translated.

 

Ah, like Romanian, but with the diacritical mark over the "S". In Romanian it's a comma under the "S" but has the same pronunciation, "sh".

 

This fuss this fool is making in that article is speculation at best. Wikipedia has to have secondary sources on his vital records, then, I'm guessing. An 1871 DOB isn't exactly Cretaceous Period. He must have come into Ellis Island. There must be immigration records, ship manifests, even travel and work records aren't out of the possibilities. I think you're on pretty solid ground in your position. But that's where you'd want to be, in these collateral-type sources, where the genealogical record would leave you off. I mean, if you had to...

Let us see that SVDB you get from ANA for this, Sherlock, lol. Good work and insightful peek into this branch of study and research.

 

Of course- it was not MY research. Draugas put this information out- but the myth still persists.

Draugas really did the work. I just found it after looking for some time.

The link does also include his ship manifest. It labels him as a "graver" named David Brenner. From Schaulen (Sounds like a German version of Šiauliai) in 1890. The problem is the birth record, because without it we are stuck. Lots of Lithuanians changed names, sometimes even making completely fake "Lithuanian" names because they were fleeing, needed to start anew. etc.

 

Lots of immigrants changed names or had them botched, that's just another part of challenge tracking them down. And they fled, genocide, you name it, that's all over mine, too, some having to had to leave behind fortunes just to get their families and them out. It's the way it worked.

 

The ANA is always looking for interesting, new articles for their monthly magazine, The Numismatist. You should extend and submit your research. I believe many would enjoy (and be surprised by) reading more of those facts in an upcoming issue!

 

Generally, I enjoy reading about the coins that come through this CT forum, but this post by Mr. Saltis and others contributing their stories is extremely interesting. I admire the knowledge you folks display here. Well said all. Thanks.

 

Here is a photo about today’s Lithuanian holiday!

 

Trejos devynerios
Sveikas

 

To quote Scotty, "It's green!"

 

One of my favorite TV shows is “Finding Your Roots” on PBS. https://www.pbs.org/show/finding-your-roots/
Truly amazing what they find for some of their guests.
My mom’s parents came into Ellis Island from Lithuania early 20th century. My brother tracked down records from Ellis Island, and visited the Church and saw records of my Nana’s baptism in Vilnius. Pretty cool, but outside of that, don’t know much except my dad’s folks came over from Germany several generations back.
Wonder what the Finding Your Roots group would charge to work up a complete lineage? lol.

 

For Lithuanians, it adds up somewhat quickly. The records are not indexed so one must go through every page and read the handwriting, damaged pages, etc.

These are the same records housed in the Vilnius archive that your brother visited.I paid a couple times for certain books which had not been scanned yet, but I have made enough friends that I have been kind enough to have friends who spend all day at the archives that will scan for me.

I mentioned earlier in the thread that I plan to have a trip to Lithuania. Maybe go to school out there as I can get by with basic Russian and Lithuanian to the point where I perhaps could live in a city like Vilnius or Kaunas.

 

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