Thistle and Rose coin-Jennlala

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by Jennlala, Aug 22, 2005.

  1. Jennlala

    Jennlala New Member

    Thistle and Rose coin-More pictures and Information.

    Hi Folks. I am a newbie and have a coin and if anyone can give me some info about it. I would be grateful. It does have a hole in it and I was wondering why that might be. It is so tiny, just about 3/8 inch across.

    Thank you-(here is a pic)

    I found this pic on the internet. Could it be the same coin??? Any comments appreciated.

    "England, James I, AD 1603-1625, AR Halfpenny, 2nd coinage, IM:Coronet (1606-1609). Thistle/Rose, Seaby 2663. Centered, grey tone, clear types, no legends as made,"

    Here is another picture . I found this pic at this site. Guy Clark's Ancient Coins and Antiquities http://www.ancient-art.com/medieval.htm
     

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  3. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I've checked the Krause catalogs but can't find anything that matches your pics. There's a few that vaguely resemble it though. We'll have to wait for someone better versed in these to come along & help.
     
  4. lawdogct

    lawdogct Coin Collector

    Coins have been holed for centuries and for as many reasons you can think of from gun sites to replacement buttons. Most commonly though, holed coins are worn as pendants.
     
  5. Krasnaya Vityaz

    Krasnaya Vityaz Always Right

    This is an English halfpenny, an interesting piece that was issued after James VI of Scotland assumed the throne in England after the death of his mothers cousin, Elizabeth I of England.

    In many ways this coin symbolizes the union of the two kingdoms, a reality in 1603 but not formal until 1707.
     
  6. pab

    pab New Member

    It is as said, a James I halfpenny. Charles I had a similar coin but with the rose on both sides. A lot of these coins are found holed, possibly for use as jewelry.
     
  7. Jennlala

    Jennlala New Member

    I am from Virginia, not to far from Jamestown. Just think this coin was being used at the same time Jamestown was settled. I just love to think of the history behind this coin. Like I said this is one of 2 coins I have and I paid 10.00 for it. Is that an outrageous amount since has a whole in it?

    Thank you so much for your input! I just love this little coin!
     
  8. JVG814

    JVG814 New Member

    if you really like holding a piece of history or a coin with a tremendous amount of history buy a couple of aincent coins. they normally come cheap and just imagine that 2000 years ago a gladiator or a roman soldier going into battle may have held it. Thats why i bought some on ebay, not cause of the value but cause of the history.
     
  9. Jennlala

    Jennlala New Member

    Thanks, I think I will check it out. :)
     
  10. Mikjo0

    Mikjo0 Numismatist

    I guess I posted on Jenn's earlier post but came to the same conclusion as the rest of you.Here is a really good link to the rose/thistle coin.
    http://www.24carat.co.uk/halfpencestory.html
    Roses, Thistles & Plumes
    "The portcullis design was continued for the first coinage of James I (1603-1625), but was replaced by a rose on the obverse, and a thistle on the reverse."
    I guess it was worn as a necklace at one time,hence the hole.
     
  11. bulldawg

    bulldawg Senior Member

    I read some where ( don't remeber where) that a lot of old coins were holed to be placed on a string of leather to carry them because they didn't have pockets.
     
  12. Jennlala

    Jennlala New Member

    Thank you all ! You are all so wonderful and so knowledgable. You have been a great help.
    Now I will just keep on searching for more neat coins. :)
     
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