Federal Republic. Nurnberg Museum 5 Mark 1952

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  1. HAGOP

    HAGOP Member

    Federal Republic. Nurnberg Museum 5 Mark 1952, /I KM113

    What is the number of MINTAGE of this coin?
    Why the price is so high?What should be the price for an XF/AU of this coin?

    WHAT IS THE WEIGHT & DIAMETRE of this coin?

    Is there fakes of it?

    Because lately a dealer is offering me one for a very reasonable price.
     
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  3. chrisild

    chrisild Coin Collector

    The "Germanisches Museum" coin was the very first commem that the Federal Republic of Germany issued (officially in 1952, actually in Sep-1953). Mintage 200,000 - including 1240 proof pieces. As for the price, well, roughly €500 for vz/EF and €800 for st/BU. Have a look here for example:
    http://www.muenzauktion.com/shops/s...str=germanisches+museum&branche=1&sindsvalue=

    All 5 DM silver coins have a weight of 11.2 g and a diameter of 29 mm. And yes, there are fakes around. Also modern copies which will usually have some kind of stamp with the "modern" date. Here http://www.muenzkontor.de/templates/user_page_2000_1/article_pictures/8210264B01.JPG is an example of such a replica. Note the additional oval "2004" stamp, and the 999 silver sign on the other side. The actual coin is Ag 625.

    Christian
     
  4. chrisild

    chrisild Coin Collector

    In case anybody wonders what those two birds are - the one (on the side with the face value) is the federal eagle. The other one is a fibula or brooch from the 5th century that was found in 1892/93 near Domagnano, San Marino. Parts of the Domagnano Treasure, including this fibula, are in Nürnberg. Others are in London; click on "Drawing showing how jewellery would have been worn" to see the position of the brooch. Here is a larger photo of the Nürnberg fibula.

    Christian
     
  5. HAGOP

    HAGOP Member

    Thank you for sharing the important and the intresting information.
    The coin they showed me was a fake one with the weight of 11.8 grams.
    An overweighted coin,The fake coins always comes across to me in Lebanese market,I'm not surprised.
     
  6. chrisild

    chrisild Coin Collector

    Glad I could help - even though the reply may have been a little disappointing for you. ;)

    Christian
     
  7. Mynter

    Mynter Active Member

    I think the market is willing to pay an extra premium for the fact that the " Museum " was the first commem of a new country to collect. If I remember right the " federal republic - boom " startet in the 60ths when people began to be able to have money left for luxery. In the 1970s this boom reached its peak , a " Museum " in an average condition would cost about 3000 DM then, now a top - speciemen might go for 500 Euro.

    The challange about the early commems is to find a nice one. When they were issued, they were quit unpopular. People did not remember to have other coins than the standard coinage after the nazis ceased issuing commemorativs in 1934 and withdrew the few they had been minting in 1942. Secondly 5 DM were a lot of money. In 1953 most people would not put a fiver aside without a reason. As a consequence the " Museum " often appears worn after having circulated.

    Best regards, Mynter
     
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