self-adhesive vs stapled 2x2s

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by ManlyChris, Aug 25, 2009.

  1. ManlyChris

    ManlyChris Junior Member

    anyone have a preference?
     
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  3. hontonai

    hontonai Registered Contrarian

    Absolutely.

    If staples are clinched flat, the risk of scratching other coins is virtually eliminated.

    Self-adhesive 2x2s expose the coins to unknown dangers from outgassing chemicals.
     
  4. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    Essentially all my raw coins are in stapled 2x2 holders with the staples pressed flat. I've seen no problems in my decades of using the stapled 2x2s. I would not trust an adhesive near the coin.

    Very best regards,
    collect89
     
  5. Tater

    Tater Coin Collector

    I use a stapler that gets the staple flat. Than I take pliars and squeeze the staples even flatter. Haven't had a problem. Like the others not sure what chemicals are in the glue.
     
  6. ManlyChris

    ManlyChris Junior Member

    great thanks guys - now i just need to find an english webiste selling them!
     
  7. TRT2

    TRT2 Member

    I tried the self adhesive for dollar type coins due to my fear of stapling and flattening with so little space around the edge. Fear of damaging the rim... so I experimented with the adhesive...

    and it appears, again due to limited material around a dollar coin, there is not enough adhesive to keep them glued together.

    so stapled for me... and will probably repackage the dollars once I get better at flattening staples.
     
  8. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    I use staples. Always been afraid of adhesives near my coins.
     
  9. CrustyCoins

    CrustyCoins Twilight Photographer

    I just use Mylar coin flips and a sharpie to write on them if necessary. Otherwise I stack the coins in tubes.
     
  10. illini420

    illini420 1909 Collector

    i use flips too... staples scare my coins... they've seen so many of their friends with light staple scratches across their faces!!!!
     
  11. Jim M

    Jim M Ride it like ya stole it

    What Hontonai said.. : )
     
  12. Just Carl

    Just Carl Numismatist

    If you cover the coins with some epoxy glue, then close the 2x2, press for a few minutes, no staples or adhesives are necessary. :goofer:
    If you use really big staples, you could use less by just placing the staples accross the center and hitting with a hammer. :hammer:
    I've been using the staples and a pair of pliers for as long as there have been those 2x2's. No problems of any kind doing that way. Still take up a little more room than tape of glue, but also easier to remove and reuse. When I purchase a coin in a 2x2, I usually white out the info and reuse if not to badly messed up. Those sticky types scare me since I do not know and have not been able to find out exactly what it is the products composition. On really large coins with little room for a staple I've used some clear tape. No problems with those either.
     
  13. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    AS long as the staples are flat or into the cardboard they're fine , but don't use cheap staples that might rust .
    rzage:)
     
  14. ManlyChris

    ManlyChris Junior Member

    thanks very much guys - think i'll go with the staple kind since they're tried and tested...

    anyone know where i can buy Mylar Cardboard flips for english sized coins?

    Cheers, Chris
     
  15. hontonai

    hontonai Registered Contrarian

    I buy from US dealers and just select the closest size for my Japanese coins, but these folks might have what you are looking for.
     
  16. fusiafinch

    fusiafinch Member

    But if you decide on staples and take the coin out of the holder, be sure to completely remove the staple from the area before taking the coin out of the holder. I'd like to know how many people have scratched a great coin by trying to take it out of the holder with the staple half open.
     
  17. CrustyCoins

    CrustyCoins Twilight Photographer


    Guilty. :eek:
     
  18. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I thought the idea of these holders was to use once and throw out. Trying to sneek a coin past a staple is a scary thought.

    I have not bought staple holders for over 40 years but in the meanwhile I have received a few coins in them. In changing to my prefered storage system (trays - I collect ancients), I have noted the cardboard holders differ considerably on the clear material. Some have cellophane that makes a noise when wrinkled. Others have a material that stretches a bit and conforms to the relief of the coin. It is like a very thin rubber glove material. I know there are differences in mylar and the evil poly flips that turn to green grease and eat our coins. Are there differences in flips we need to be aware of, too.

    Just before joining this forum, I dug out my childhood US coin collection stored away (attic, basement, closet) for 40 years. A few (1-2%) coins had toned or spotted (ruined in my opinion) but most survived. There were a couple poly flips with slime but more were in old cardboards or paper envelopes. Some in cardboard folders had darker edges than when they went in. The worst were bright silvers in cardboards that fit snugly. I assume the coins had a spot of moisture on them when they were stapled since coins that spent the same time in the same box survived cleanly. I always warn ancients collectors against putting things that have been cleaned (all ancients have been cleaned) in something that will not let them breathe. I suspect the spotted coins would have spotted anyway but it is hard not to blame the holders they were in. I do suggest being absolutely sure coins going into any tight holder are dry. Humidity and time makes spots.
     
  19. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    On a similar thread before, someone made the suggestion to NOT try to open the 2x2 by loosening the staples, just use the end of a toothpick to go around the inside of the hole in the cardboard, cutting through the mylar, but not touching the coin, which is then removed through the hole. DO the first over a soft surface until you get the hang of it. That is the technique I now use. No staple end exposed.

    Jim
     
  20. CrustyCoins

    CrustyCoins Twilight Photographer

    I guess on a similar line you could just cut around the staples using scissors.
     
  21. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    I just use the standard US sizes and use a size just a little larger than the coin. I like being able to see the edge of the coin,and sometimes that edge is important. I don't like a 2X2 that fits the coin exactly.


    I don't remove the staples. If I want to take the coin out I use a toothpick to break the mylar window and then run it around the circumferance of the coin. The coin comes out easily and safely and never gets close to a staple.

    Yes you could, but why let sharp metal objects get near your coins when a nice soft toothpick works so well.
     
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