i was looking at these coins and really counldnt tell wheter they were NT or AT. i was leaning towards NT? any insight would be greatly appreciated:thumb:
hard to tell with such small pictures. They look very attractive from what I can tell, and it is possible, however they seem a little too "perfect" to me. If it's a doctor job it looks like a good one.
While nothing about the colors or pattern immediately strike me as AT, the photos strike me as being enhanced (JUICED). I have seen those colors and toning patterns on Morgans before and actually have an O-mint Morgan that is similar. The toning alignment on all three coins is spot on. What I mean by alignment is the depth of the toning with respect to obverse an reverse. If the coin is most deeply toned at 11 o'clock on the obverse then it should be most deeply toned at 7 o'clock on the reverse. That holds true on all three of these coins. The colors in those photos just seem too vibrant to believe. This is the second post in which you asked about the originality of toning and the seller's photos have been juiced. My general advice to you is to stop shopping for toned coins on E-Bay and limit yourself to NGC & PCGS examples only. My specific advice about these coins is that the seller has enhanced the photos to make them look better than they really are. If you buy them, you will probably be disappointed when you see them in hand. Additionally, the 1881-O is either very low grade and lackluster or has been cleaned. The other two appear to be in the MS63/4 range but that begs the question: why are they not in NGC or PCGS holders? Don't risk it with rainbow toned coins. If you want resell value, they have to be in an NGC or PCGS slab. The best part is that if you buy an AT coin in one of these slabs, you will still be able to recoup your money at sale time.
Best Way to learn about toners (NT). If you are lucky, like I am. You will find your kiddie Roosevelt dime collection that has not seen the light since 1960. I was able to study my own kid collection and see how NT looks. Memories & knowledge...amazing it survived intact all these years almost 50. Traci
Difficult to tell from the over saturation of the colors. If you try to imagine it less saturated they could be NT but it needs better photos or to be seen in hand before making judgment.
Lehigh's coin shows the proper sequence of colors from zero to G ( as far as I can see)( see link below) with no missing or abnormal colors. The OP has a couple of out-of-place colors in the sequence. Normally there should be some russet and burgundy, and cobalt blue comes before the bright cyan blue. This doesn't mean it is AT or NT, as one could only judge that in hand ( or even better like Lehigh says~~ PCGS/NCG graded) due to the fact the color band could be very narrow. I would say that the one on top is OK color wise , and that the one on the bottom left possibly might, but I would expect the bottom right to be Questionable color. IMO. Jim http://forums.collectors.com/messageview.cfm?catid=26&threadid=716279
I have to agree that the photo has been enhanced by adding color saturation. That's a pretty standard editing tool/trick on ebay. Those coins do look pretty scruffy too. The toning looks fairly authentic, the really bad ones on ebay you can see a "splatter" effect where they look like a fluid has come in contact with the suface. I see no evidence of this, however I believe it is possible to artificially tone a coin AFTER it has been slabbed as a slab is not completely airtight. I'm not sure of the process involved to do so, but I'm pretty sure I've seen some ebay slabs that didn't look natural to me, and I'm talking pcgs and ngc, not some weird tpg you never heard of.
