Coin Grading/Authentication Services

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Reid Goldsborough, Sep 27, 2002.

  1. Peter T Davis

    Peter T Davis Hammer at the Ready Moderator

    1920s Buffalo Nickels from the branch mints especially are difficult to grade due to poor strikes.
     
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  3. laz

    laz New Member

    I find it rather interesting that this was the "authorities" only post, kinda hit and run. Pretty sad way to behave if you ask me,and not exactly showing the good side of grading services! ~ Jim
     
  4. rottnrog

    rottnrog New Member


    NCS is owned by NGC, so technically they are a grading company!
     
  5. Stujoe

    Stujoe New Member

    ANACS is owned by Amos Publishing. Does that make ANACS a magazine? :)

    Just kidding as I would say NCS is a grading service too. Even the slab on their website says "1792 B-2 25c - XF Detail - Improper Cleaning Artificial Toning"

    http://www.ncscoin.com/

    I would call that grading and they call it grading too:

    http://www.ncscoin.com/auth_grading/index.htm

    However, they only grade problem coins and they do it technically. Really, I consider NCS to be a conservation service and the "We don't want it in our top notch slabs" division of NGC.
     
  6. laz

    laz New Member

    Careful folks, rottnrog is a excapee from Error World! lol Well,things should liven up a bit now,welcome aboard Roger!! It's nice to see you on the list! ~ Jim :)
     
  7. Coin Chick

    Coin Chick Loves Gold

    Is the ANA going to certify the graders?
     
  8. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    No - the ANA has said they will not certify the graders - yet. They are still examining the idea and trying to work out a way to help solve the problems in the grading industry.
     
  9. keyboard

    keyboard New Member

    Hello.
    I have The mountain Pen L.E Gold 18K
     
  10. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    keyboard - Welcome to the Forum !

    Can you tell us what this Mountain Pen L.E Gold 18K is ? I have never heard of such a thing.
     
  11. Pirate

    Pirate New Member

    Lol , I Buy Raw Coins With The Knowlege Of There Grade! Hum, Grading Is Subjective. Send The Same Coin To All Agencys .better Yet Break It Out Send Back To Same Agency 5 Times. Good Luck Pirate
     
  12. Peter T Davis

    Peter T Davis Hammer at the Ready Moderator

    Almost three years ago and I still find this information useful.
     
  13. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    There ya go - makin me feel old again :D
     
  14. Morgan

    Morgan New Member

    I wonder what they would say about SGS
     
  15. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    You wonder what "who" would say about them ? The guy defending his company - or the other posters ?
     
  16. The Old Sarge

    The Old Sarge Junior Member

    Gentlemen;

    Let me add my two cents worth.

    BUY THE COIN NOT THE PLASTIC!!!!

    Accugrade: Alan is a personal friend of mine and I like him as a person. He has an extensive knowledge of coins and has written extensively on grading silver dollars (4 volume series covering Morgan, Peace and Ike dollars). That is on the plus side. On the minus side, he is blunt, opinionated and grates on you like a corncob used for toilet paper. (Sorry Alan, that is fact). Alan is a salesman and he is good at it. I have purchased a few hundred of his slabs at discounted prices simply because the other person wanted to get rid of them. Most were resubmitted to another service and crossed over in the same grade. Granted, I did select carefully just as I do with all the other services.

    SEGS: I chose SEGS as the grading service I use simply because Larry is very knowledgable about varities and errors plus the fact that I believe his slab is presently the safest on the market. Larry tends to practice technical grading, not consensus grading. Consensus or market grading should have no bearing on the actual grade of a coin. It will, however, have a distinct bearing on the price. A beautiful coin brings more money than one with problems - spots, etc.

    PCGS and NGC: I accept that a coin graded by either of these services should not vary more than a point (grading is an art, not a science).but the question of the difference in grading that infamous 1974 aluminum cent which NGC gave a AU58 and PCGS gave a MS62. If tit had been the other way I would understand it better. How can a coin go from used to new? PCGS has been remarkedly close mouthed about that one.

    Rule 2: Never buy a coin that you don't like regardless of the price. You will never like it.

    Rule 3: There are only two actual grades for a coin. One is new. The other is used. The rumoured reason that we actually have 70 different grades is to make us (the dealers) feel superior to used car dealers. The price of a coin is arrived at after negotiation between seller and buyer.

    Paul Garner
    The Old Sarge
     
  17. AUBU2

    AUBU2 Senior Member

    It reminds me of a test that was run on income tax preparers. The same figures were given to multiple preparers. Every tax form came back different. They varied from having to pay in a considerable amount, to getting back a hefty return.(how did i end up in a 6 year old thread?)
     
  18. 900fine

    900fine doggone it people like me

    I choose door #2 ! :D
     
  19. MrOrganic

    MrOrganic Senior Member


    Hey sarge,

    What are your thoughts on ANACS

    thanx
     
  20. Localyokel

    Localyokel Junior Member

    There is a seller on eBay who is slabbing his coins PCS. The holder looks identical tothe newer PCGS slabs except for the missing "g". He's got plenty of MS66s and other overgraded stuff.
     
  21. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Got a link? I have PCS slabs but nothing that looks like the PCGS slabs
     
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