Krause on DVD

um.....burning a copy of a CD you own for others actually make the vendor incur a lost as well.

I produce Memorial DVD's for local funeral homes and I'm quite sure that many families make copies and hand them out to the rest of the family - if I could prove that I could sue, and win. I have copyright notice listed on each disk, and if I could find a good and cheap way to do it, I would encode the DVD so that on copy it would re-write itself. (possible).

Speedy

 

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You are saying that not making money and losing money you have are the same thing. I disagree. Like I said in the example above, someone who is unable to download 30 albums in a week will not necessarily (actually, most certainly will not) buy all those albums.

Proving a copyright infringement is easier than proving that someone would actually buy a DVD from you if that person was unable to get a free copy . On the other hand, if you have a music store, you pay the distributor for the albums you display. If someone steals one, you're actually losing something you already have.

 

There is a big difference. Copyright violation isn't theft. It is not theft legaly, or morally.

In the case of theft, someone's item is deprived of them because it is taken from them and they suffer a loss of the item. It is a part of nature and security in your property is a natural right as well as guaranteed in the constitution. In fact, security in property is a primary basis for government. Copyright violation is a legal privilege...period. There is no other factual way to describe it. Copying is an essential part of human existence. It is essential for the transmission of human culture and for education. The KEY COMPONENT of human civilization is copying, memorizing and reusing. You can't transmit ideas to another without copying them. The privilege of copyright is a system of reward for making additional works public. It is questionable whether it is successful or works. It's based on a 19th Century understanding of technology and is rightfully slowly dieing. All copyright is a throttle on human development and education and is therefor a limited privileged. So asking if copying is stealing is inherently a falsehood. It is certainly never stealing. There might be other moral or legal questions to pose, but it is not theft.

Ruben

 

No - it isn't. It might be a copyright violation.

 

That is a good deal. 5 bucks for that database is pretty fair.

Ruben

 

Hello Ruben,
To be honest, I was really kind of excited about the $5 deal and the Krause table only had a few left. I met about 1/2 dozen world coin enthusiasts in the next aisle & was anxious to tell them all about it. Of course, they would need to go over to Krause while there were still some discs left. Nobody was interested.
Very best regards,
collect89

 

Collect89,
I'm curious - what format is the DVD? Is it just pdf files or, for example, can you load down the data into a database on your PC. For personal use only, of course. Can you do queries to look up coins? Does it resemble the Krause website query tool where you can search on a coin based on specific criterea (country, year, denomination, composition, KM#)?

I have been (very slowly) working on a coin database and I would love to load the data in to have it as a reference. This would not be for commercial purposes, so I imagine that if I buy the disk and I am able to do that, then it would be legal and ethical(?)

-Daniel

 

Hello Daniel,

I don't know all the technical nuances of the DVD. My computer opens it using Adobe Acrobat 7.0 Professional (of which I own a legal copy). You can jump to countries & chapters using the scroll menu on the left & you can use your mouse to go from page to page & zoom in on any part of the page. IMO, the photo quality & zoom feature make it much nicer than using the book. I have limited experience with the DVD at this point.

Very best regards,
collect89

 

They are in PDF format.

 

Yeah - too bad it is in a pdf format...another hurdle. :headbang:

 

PDF is fine with me. Sure, maybe a more "modular" solution would be easier to handle (in terms of copying or exporting) if you have your own coin database. But at least PDF can be used on pretty much every computer ...

Another option would be Numismaster, also from Krause. That you can "carry" with you even more easily; all you need is Internet access. Don't know about the export functions, but it may be worth a try. They charge about 80 dollars for one year - for me that would currently be 56 euro. Does not sound too bad.

Christian

 

Just being curious, if not pdf what format would you rather use it in? HTML?

 

I would prefer to have it as a database so that I could do searches based on criteria. If you go to their web site (http://tinyurl.com/lxh5au), they have that in a minimal form. It would be nice to have the full blown product on the DVD. But if it is just the straight text from the book, then it makes sense to have it as a pdf. It is all a question of what you want to use it for.

-Daniel

 

Is this what you are talking about:

http://depositfiles.com/ru/files/k72dj3ch5

Ribbit

 

The version I posted is JPG formatted so they're just a bunch of pics and can easily be stored on a cell phone to take with you.

Ribbit

Ps: I hope you can figure out Russian. :goofer: The book is in English but the file hosting website is in Russian.

 

Here's a link to all the Krause World Coin books:

**** mising links ****

Ribbit

 

now books in the future will be on CD. that's great. we don't have to carry a lot of books to school. just bring a CD. and everyone should have a small lap top. remember good old days. we always brought a lot and heavy books to school to study. as for krause CD. that's great. i love it.

 

It won't be great if the books turn themselves off after 6 months.

 

Found this: http://rapidshare.com/users/P8UA5H

 

Originally Posted by Drusus
You area a thief...but I wont judge you...nice My mother burned me a copy of a book she bought on DVD...is she a dirty filthy thief?



I don't know about the dirty, filthy thief part, and I hate to agree with Doug but, it is illegal. The same as copying a movie onto another dvd and giving it to someone else would be illegal. (unauthorized redistribution for one) which is why things are copywritten to begin with. You may not be strolling into a brick and mortar store and putting something into your pocket without paying for it, but, it equates to essentially the same thing.