2000 P Sacagawea dollar DDO or MD?

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  1. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Your pic are very hard to decifer. Try just taking a clear full size image of entire coin and ask us to view different areas you have questions with. With so many pictures to look at and not knowing what were looking for is problematic. Pictures are so blurry I'm not even sure what part of the coin I'm looking at.
     
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  3. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    I did find IGWT interesting. Send a good picture of that ok. Or a nice picture of the full coin. Front and back. We can in large them on or end
     
  4. SilverDollar2017

    SilverDollar2017 Morgan dollars

    Most of it looked like MD, but better pics of some areas, especially IGWT as Cheech9712 mentioned, would help.
     
  5. Stl Coin

    Stl Coin New Member

    I am well versed in the minting process as well as the difference in MD & DD technical processes. I have managed to acquire several excellent BU examples of the 2000-P Sacagawea $1 over the years that possess a very distinct, interesting & repetitive anomaly that appears to favor a DD. Jean Baptiste <Sacagaweas baby> has 2 sets of eyes, 2 noses and 4 lips. Sacagawea has 4 eyes/pupils and 2 chins, in 2 examples there is very light South & West shelving on the date and legend ALTHOUGH the detail "doubling" is strictly North & South. 2 different examples have the same detail "doubling" without any date/legend shelving. Finally 1 example displays defined tripling of details sans any date/legend shelving. All specimens show no die misalignment throughout the planchet usually seen as a co-centric circle around the outer edge appearing as a lighter "inner" rim. I have a working theory that each specimen are actually closer to a multiple strike caused by what's known as "Ejection Doubling" which is caused by a combination of a loose collar under excessive strike pressure and press speed. This would explain both the Doubling, Tripling & Shelving. Back in 2005, I brought this to the attention of J.T Stanton <Cherrypickers Guide Author>, in a well stated manner, J.T agreed with my theory but stated that technically it is a Multiple Strike, but is a type of error that cannot be traditionally traced down by Mint records therefore can't be identified as an traditional error. He did however agreed it is a legitimate Multi Strike Error because multiple specimens could be identified within the minting process. I will shoot some pictures and post the variants. I believe one day these should be certifiable as such. Happy Collecting!
     
  6. Stl Coin

    Stl Coin New Member

    I am well versed in the minting process as well as the difference in MD & DD technical processes. I have managed to acquire several excellent BU examples of the 2000-P Sacagawea $1 over the years that possess a very distinct, interesting & repetitive anomaly that appears to favor a DD. Jean Baptiste <Sacagaweas baby> has 2 sets of eyes, 2 noses and 4 lips. Sacagawea has 4 eyes/pupils and 2 chins, in 2 examples there is very light South & West shelving on the date and legend ALTHOUGH the detail "doubling" is strictly North & South. 2 different examples have the same detail "doubling" without any date/legend shelving. Finally 1 example displays defined tripling of details sans any date/legend shelving. All specimens show no die misalignment throughout the planchet usually seen as a co-centric circle around the outer edge appearing as a lighter "inner" rim. I have a working theory that each specimen are actually closer to a multiple strike caused by what's known as "Ejection Doubling" which is caused by a combination of a loose collar under excessive strike pressure and press speed. This would explain both the Doubling, Tripling & Shelving. Back in 2005, I brought this to the attention of J.T Stanton <Cherrypickers Guide Author>, in a well stated manner, J.T agreed with my theory but stated that technically it is a Multiple Strike, but is a type of error that cannot be traditionally traced down by Mint records therefore can't be identified as an traditional error. He did however agreed it is a legitimate Multi Strike Error because multiple specimens could be identified within the minting process. I will shoot some pictures and post the variants. I believe one day these should be certifiable as such. Happy Collecting!
     
  7. Stl Coin

    Stl Coin New Member

    I am well versed in the minting process as well as the difference in MD & DD technical processes. I have managed to acquire several excellent BU examples of the 2000-P Sacagawea $1 over the years that possess a very distinct, interesting & repetitive anomaly that appears to favor a DD. Jean Baptiste <Sacagaweas baby> has 2 sets of eyes, 2 noses and 4 lips. Sacagawea has 4 eyes/pupils and 2 chins, in 2 examples there is very light South & West shelving on the date and legend ALTHOUGH the detail "doubling" is strictly North & South. 2 different examples have the same detail "doubling" without any date/legend shelving. Finally 1 example displays defined tripling of details sans any date/legend shelving. All specimens show no die misalignment throughout the planchet usually seen as a co-centric circle around the outer edge appearing as a lighter "inner" rim. I have a working theory that each specimen are actually closer to a multiple strike caused by what's known as "Ejection Doubling" which is caused by a combination of a loose collar under excessive strike pressure and press speed. This would explain both the Doubling, Tripling & Shelving. Back in 2005, I brought this to the attention of J.T Stanton <Cherrypickers Guide Author>, in a well stated manner, J.T agreed with my theory but stated that technically it is a Multiple Strike, but is a type of error that cannot be traditionally traced down by Mint records therefore can't be identified as an traditional error. He did however agreed it is a legitimate Multi Strike Error because multiple specimens could be identified within the minting process. I will shoot some pictures and post the variants. I believe one day these should be certifiable as such. Happy Collecting!
     
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