Coin Robberies

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Let them do their job. And I don't owe the NYPD anything. When they do there jobs, they have my respect.

 

Itis how to start. Read about the digital work for google books, when they scanned millions of books. They had significant AI to help identify things. Then there is the Domains system for facial recognition. Truth, they can scan and track every coin they have images of and do significant finger printing.

 

This makes me sick to my stomach . I just moved to a new state and at my new neighbors house his friend came over and braged about stealing some coins a few years back. I never went back wtf.

 

This is the original email that pops sent to the NYPD after the robbery was reported and the police arrived.

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Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 00:27:50 -0400
From: Ruben Safir <ruben@mrbrklyn.com>
To: michelle.garlick@nypd.org
Cc: mrbrklyn@panix.com, doug@numismaticcrimes.org
Subject: Coin Collection Theft
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With regards to report 2014/3702, the theft of coins from Ruben Safir
from **address redacteded**, attached is a PDF of many
items purchased from David Kahan including slab number for the coins.
This file is a pdf format.

In addition, I've started the very difficult task of identifying most of
the stolen coins. Nearely each one has been photographed and is
pictured http://images.mrbrklyn.com/coins/ . Note it takes time to load
because it is a lot of detailed images, much of it related to the main
website where much of the collection was documented and discussed at
the online coin museum http://www.coinhangout.com/

A spread sheet is started here:

http://www.mrbrklyn.com/docs/stolen_coins.ods
in openoffice format

or here in plain html
http://www.mrbrklyn.com/docs/stolen_coins.html

In addition, I have a paper copy of many more coins purched from a
vendor in California, mostly silver and gold commerative pieces relating
to birds.

There is only a handful of people who knew where the collection was
located including my employer, ***name and phone number redacted***, who was shown the collection few weeks before its theft, and is having difficult monetary troubles and has done underhanded dealing in the pharmacy previously. Then there is my daughter ***redacted***, a friend from the fishing boat named ***redacted*** who runs errands for me from time to time and had the door combination as well. The upstairs neighbor in 2E has stalked my apartment from time to time and entered the building from the fire escape. I heard someone on the fire escape about 2 weeks prior to the theft and discussed it with the Supers wife.

I might have one or two suspected leads. Please HELP me with this. The collection was unique and represented much of my savings. The peices together are unique, with an odd group of coins that would stand out, especially the large number of bird coins, ancient hebrew coins, and quality bust coins. Someone would notice them as being unique.

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BTW - NGC had the slab for the SLQ deleted and they are been useless and will not release the information on who requested the slab to be deleted. That would likely put us very close to fingering the criminals if that information was released to us.

 

I have a much higher opinion of all law enforcement. There is a lot that takes place that the public can not see. There is no question, they spend most of the time they have working on the most important cases at that time. That's the way it should be. Theft is a bad thing but not as bad as many other crimes.

 

While I respect your opinion, they should do their jobs. Preventing and solving robberies is their job. You can not excuse their laziness by claiming they are only solving murders this week....month...years.

 

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I can't believe that, have you told NGC that there was a theft involved and that the perp likely asked for the slab info to be deleted ? Who asks for such info to be deleted ?

 

Yup - and we get back crickets. Pops called, i forwarded email. Nadah.

 

Wrong! The job of the police is unequivocally not to prevent robberies. That's your job. Telling all those people you mentioned, might not seem like many to you but it is a lot, that you had all those valuables in your apt was broken rule #1. Keep your personal and sensitive info inside your mouth. Tell one person you trust, and you don't know who that trustworthy person tells. Obviously someone nefarious.

Getting back to the police. Their job is in no way to prevent your robbery, rape or murder. Their job is to clean up the mess. You're misguided in your law enforcement expectations. My guess is that's a NYC thing. I grew up there. I'm very familiar with the dependency mindset.

 

This sounds more like it was a burglary and not a robbery.

That being said, more law enforcement resources are most likely used to investigate a robbery than in a burglary, because a robbery in most cases involves attempting to physically assault someone where a weapon of some type is used, kidnapping, etc. Robberies probably have a higher level of urgency/priority to be investigated than compared to a burglary. IMO.

 

The time to investigate this is long gone, friend. He’s grabbing at straws, now. He had his chance when this happened to do it right. That was seven years ago. The police came over, then he sends them an email. WTF? The trail is still hot and he comes on here playing detective. We go for it, what the hell, why not, breaks up the day, something to do, you know how it is...

This was a professional burglary ring, if there ever was it. They got tipped by a local who got kicked back for it because that’s how they work. No average square knows how to pull off something like this, this deftly. But it hit the skids. Why? Because he didn’t keep the pressure on. Because we went on here and only God knows where else crying victim while insisting on everybody drop everything and play cops and robbers with him. To @cplradar, how long are you going to keep reviving this seven-year thread? I have one of your coins. Assume that. I bought it five years ago at a flea market. I paid good cash for it. I still have the receipt. Do you really think I’m going to give it back you you? If you prove it to the ASA it’s yours, do you really think they’re going to take it away from me, let alone arrest me? For what, buying at a flea market?

Do you see where you are? You had your chance, and you’re beyond that, now. Lick your wounds. Take better care of your coins. This is over seven years ago, I’m very sorry to tell you and Dad...

 

I live in a small town in North Carolina. Most of us know our policemen by their first name. My wife was a high school teacher for 34 years and knows each one of them and if they see her, they will pull her over to tell her how things are going. We've had them come over to our home, just to talk. There was an incident where an elderly man with alzheimer's and they had been out looking for him, even with a helicopter to no avail. One of my dogs went to a play yard. It was getting late and I called her and she never came, which she usually came. This time she didn't and I went over to the school and my dog (Samantha) had stayed with this man for over 2 hours. She would no leave the man. The police came and tried to get to the man and Samanta would not let them get near him. The police knew her and called me to come help, which she let me help the ambulance take her. She became and honorary policewoman. The police have asked to use her several times. We have the best police I've ever known. I guess those of you that live in large cities pay for the privilege to live where you are. Most small towns have great police.
I'm sorry for the theft or burglary. I keep important papers and my valuable coins in our State Employee's Credit Union. With Samantha and her sister Tag (Tag along because she follows Samantha everywhere.) I have a safe bolted to cement slab where some of my important coins are. I have a great insurance company and My wife and I sleep well at night with Samantha at the foot of the bed and tag on the floor next to the bed. We will soon lose Nikko. Nikko taught Samantha and Tag how to protect us. I wish you the best. Thanks all that shared so much in this thread.

 

one leads to the other.

 

But this is NYC and we have 30,000 police officers and I still know them, and my father knows all the ones on the beat in the community, by first name. It doesn't help. They come on the boat and fish and tell us that nobody will ever investigate this unless we find a big wig that will make them. That is stage one of the problem.

 

yeah - and you would think we would have incentive to close them down. I am SURE they have dirty dealers and pawn shops they deal with all the time, and I am willing to bet the cops even know the ids of the most common fenses in the community.

 

he will never give up... seems like NGC knows who it was. I used to work with Nazi Stolen Art and they NEVER give up. Giving up is just not in there make up.

 

Thanks for the positive slant on NYPD.

 

Sorry.

 

Sorry. Can't say what I would like to.