Edward the Confessor Penny: ID help please

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by Eduard, Aug 3, 2009.

  1. Eduard

    Eduard Supporter**

    Hello Coin Talkers,

    I would need some help identifying this penny of Edward the Confessor of England.

    So far I've identified this penny, minted in the years prior the Battle of Hastings, as an S-1179, type with pointed helmet. However, for the life of me I cannot identify either the Moneyer or the Mint. It does not match any of the references/pictures I have been able to find in the various internet sources.

    Thanks for any help in advance!

    Eduard

    PS- sorry for the bad quality of the pictures - best I could do with my wife's travel camera.
     

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  3. Twiggs

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  4. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Eduard - did you notice that your coin has graffiti on it ? I'm still working on trying to attribute it - more on that later.
     

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  5. LostDutchman

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    I'm not sure if it is graffiti or a reflection off the plastic of the light bulb???
     
  6. acanthite

    acanthite ALIIS DIVES

    Eduard, I cannot help with the attribution of the coin, but wanted to comment that the writing that Doug points out does appear to be reflexion as LostDutchman says, and I'm guessing it is from the edge of the camera lens, perhaps a Canon camera.
     
  7. Twiggs

    Twiggs Coin Collector

    lol..yea it says canon zoom
     
  8. huntsman53

    huntsman53 Supporter**

    LOL! It's Double Struck on a Canon Zoom Token!!! Should Eduard post it in the Error Forum??:whistle:


    Frank
     
  9. Eduard

    Eduard Supporter**

    Hello C.T Friends,
    My sincere apologies for the late reply, but the family and I have been travelling for the last 12 hours, and I am finally home although groggy from jet lag......(not easy to overcome as one grows older).

    Thank you for your comments! Reading Doug's' post I rushed to inspect the coin to make sure that it was not minted on a Cannon Token as Frank suggested (quite funny actually!), or otherwise defaced as Doug thought it might have been. I am happy to report that it is neither - our brand new 24X Bausch and Lomb loupe reveals nothing but (very difficult to read) mediaeval script.

    But what does it say?: Thanks to the kind help of De Orc, who directed me to a specialized Hammered Coin Forum, it was possible to descipher the reverse of this coin. And, believe or not it reads " EFPRD ON CENTEE " , or, " Edward in Canterbury".

    Thus, it appears this coin was minted by Edward (one of the king's' many moneyers) at the mint at Canterbury. The opinion of the expert is that it is certainly not a counterfeit, and a fairly uncommon (not rare) combination of Moneyer and Mint. It is double struck on the obverse, which makes the king look a bit funny, but otherwise appealing and of course very historical.

    So, we decided to keep the coin and my son is now very happy (he will pay me back by relinquishing his weekly pocket money for the next 3 years).

    Again, thanks to De Orc for his help, and to you all for your comments.

    Eduard
     
  10. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Glad to hear it Eduard.
     
  11. Eduard

    Eduard Supporter**

    And thank you Doug for your efforts.

    Eduard
     
  12. huntsman53

    huntsman53 Supporter**


    Eduard and Doug,

    I never meant to cause you (Eduard) any distress about your' coin! With all of the posts and inquiries that C.T. receives about coins (such as...What kind of error is this?, Is this DD or MD? and others) that actually have either been hammered, squeezed or suffered other man-made manipulation, I just thought that it was time for a little humor. I just hope that Doug is not upset with me for adding the humor at his expense! I hope you both will forgive me!


    Frank
     
  13. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    He might, I won't. You shall be flogged at sunrise :D
     
  14. huntsman53

    huntsman53 Supporter**

    :high5:

    Okay, I guess I deserve it! Now, I have never been into floggings but if the Flogger is long legged Lady that is much better looking than most of the Miss Liberty's placed on U.S. coinage, then I will submit to the time and place for the punishment.:high5::D


    Frank
     
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