Up to date mintages or production figures

defamming? hardly. it's impressive this addition game elaine has running. she just needs to learn to substantiate the data and clarify intent, as the purpose of running these figures is rather curious, and to what means doing it? I happen to question such things. I especially feel it's worth questioning the accuracy of these numbers knowing that the figures will keep changing for many months and sometimes years to come, when regarding mintage stats. The ability to verify the figures and consider the usefulness of the data would be greatly appreciated. How elaine derives the numbers would be an interesting thing to learn as well, as there seems to be a fair amount of "copy-paste" action going on here, which is essentially copying some one elses' work without attributing the fact to other sources. I don't look upon that favorably, particularly when there's so much questionable info online that anyone can copy-paste anything at will, and they do, all over the web, again and again and again. Without sources to the data these figures don't matter much what they represent, when the information was valid, for how long or for that matter if and when there were errors present, and there have been errors, gratefully corrected by elaine, and so on. Take for instance IF someone were basing buy/sell decisions on these figures and they were sprinkled with errors they'd likely make some mistakes. Of course there's no guarantees in this data but it's rather messy computing day after day, after day when a more accurate source is likely being cited and unaccredited. I will ask again, elaine, cite some sources to prove the accuracy and onecoinpony to butt out of my right to question the source of the data its accuracy and elaine's intent in posting these figures. I will go as far as to suggest that she has little interest in the coins being tallied and more in the ability to spark hysteria and reactions from readers when posting high vs low numbers. Watch for the patterns and the type of posts here and in the bullion forums and you may understand my point and reason to question the figures. It's not defamming, it's actually an attempt to disprove my suspicions and to claim fame, if that's what it is. Could say more, but I've said it before, show some sources and don't spread hype and don't stoke the gold bugs on up market days.

BTW: No harm meant by my words, just looking for something to back up the numbers. :thumb:

 

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Krispy- you can say no harm meant by the words, but the ugly accusations you tender are mean spirited and defammatory. You accuse her of plagerism and question her character and intentions and you say no harm meant! You need to review what you post before you hit submit.

If Elaine is known personally by people on this board, may I suggest you tender an apology forthwith, and it may mitigate damages if Elaine decides to pursue any remedies of law available to her.

Furthermore sonny, I'll question you all day long.

 

Well all of that other stuff aside Elaine and Krispy thank you for the info - I can't wait to get mine
I think the confusing paragraph is simply stating that they are not going to issue the coins as part of a special set or in bulk packaging, but probably very similar to the packaging on the $20 UHR Gold...
So what's it gonna cost??? I'll stab a first guess, with spot currently at $276 as I write this, i'll say $449 for the Uncirculated version. $50 more for the Proof at $499...

 

2009 clad proof set - 915,669
2009 silver proof set - 385,739
2009 prez set - 585,496
2009 formative years - 297,520

 

b.e.p. reported some 390,400,000 dollar note were issued. how can people gonna use the dollar coin?.

 

2009 american eagle bullion one ounce gold - 770,500
2009 american eagle bullion one ounce silver - 17,014,500

 

Krispy (master of the run-on sentence),

If this were a pay site I would agree with you 100%. Maybe you should try to find one.

 

yaketty yak(poo) don't come back. :goofer:

 

Krispy,

It's nice to see your mood is "fine"...it would be equally nice if you kept your opinions (character attacts) "uncirculated". :kewl:

 

a brazen newbie, with a growing number of posts unrelated to the increasing mintage figures of this thread. what possible interests could you possess in coin or currency, but to demonstrate a dismal attitude, lack of numismatic prowess, and a propensity to yak merely to spread the poo about. tisk, tisk, yakpoo..., do share with CT something of value related to the collecting hobby instead of your initial foray into dueling and racking up posts based on your weak attempts to bruise others with whom you have no relations with. Do add even a profile and introduce yourself as all other new members do before misstepping about. Should you wisen up by reading up, think a little longer after deeper observations, as some have regarding these running mintage and bullion threads, you might learn a thing or two and see it's not just opinion and that you've erred too soon in your earliest exchanges within these forums. until then, my 'uncirculated opinions' are proof of my suspicions.

 

Krispy, something I think needs to be explained here. Elaine has been doing this for a long time. Her track record speaks for itself to those of us who follow here posts on mintage numbers. If you don't like her posts or don't believe them, then don't read them. You have blasted her now several times, you have made your point about how you feel, so I think you either need to live with it or not read her info.

 

I've really nothing more that needs explaining here. However, you choose to step into this like others have and have a debate with me, so be it. I have honestly read and only then questioned what I've seen posted in these threads by the member in question. How long someone has been active is not a qualifier for their righteousness either. I've asked for sources from the member in question, seen nothing to substantiate the figures offered for verification per my inquiries and yet repeatedly find this information directly word-for-word copied from readily available sources (see below) that most people here already subscribe to or can quickly resource for themselves. Now you and the others may not question nor have a problem with copying information and not citing those sources, but to me it's irresponsible and unethical in a sense nearing 'plagiarism'. It's a problem on the web, not just here. I have said my bit and have had to re-explain it to everyone running to the defense of this member thinking that I've been insensitive or mean, which is not my prerogative, since being contrary to what most people just accept as fact given these un-sourced statistics. I have no interest in hurting anyone's reputation nor in extending this line of divergent discourse to that of this long running thread. I question the authority and precision of the statistics presented and ocassionally that of it's intent when citing rising metal costs on upmarket days as well as trying to speculate/drive collectors towards what is/isn't going to have numismatic value by dropping unreasoned thoughts along with mintage figures. The intent, whatever it may be, remains unexplained, for this member seems incapable of addressing conversationally about the matter themselves and has a mob following devoted to deflecting any opposition. It's too bad as the member seems to have an interesting perspective or insight into these topics and the mob that's forming is further obscuring a fun topic.

I've subscribed read from these sources and others long before I'd read the threads on CT and will continue to do so, if those debating me haven't read these, I suggest you to them, sources:

U.S. Mint Coin Production

CoinNews.net

Bureau of Printing & Engraving

The Bullion Desk

 

Dear elaine_1970,

As you may have read in these exchanges, several readers of this and other threads feel that my questioning of your un-cited figures are an attempt to defame or hurt your reputation in a mean spirited way. In no way is this my point nor motive yet others choose to interpret my words in such a misconstrued way. I apologize to you if you feel this way too, however while I have not heard as much from you regarding this, let alone seen you post your sources in support of your figures and suggestions pertaining to collectibility or bullion market factors you consider when requested, I stand by my questions. I enjoy these threads in which all who have chimed in discuss and speculate these topics. I both encourage and enjoy your interaction and feedback as well as admire your regular stream of data. I would offer nothing less myself of sources if requested and find the opportunity to discuss these topics together enlightening.

Very truly, your CT colleague, krispy

 

clad proof set - 936,675
silver proof set - 406,455
clad quarter set - 521,884
silver quarter set - 222,364
prez set - 587,976

 

one ounce GOLD MEDALLION mintage
1980 grant wood ------------ 313,000
1981 mark twain ------------ 116,000
1982 louis armstrong ------- 409,000
1983 robert frost ------------ 391,000
1984 helen hayes -----------34,000

half ounce GOLD MEDALLION mintage
1980 marian anderson ------ 280,000
1981 willa carter ----------- 238,000
1982 frank lloyd wright ----- 348,000
1983 alexander calder ------ 75,000
1984 john steinbeck ------- 33,000

many coins were melted down before for its gold value.

 

Recently updated figures??? What prompted your posting of these?

to your edit, thanks for the inclusion of that detail

 

estimated mintages after melted down:

one ounce GOLD MEDALLION mintage
1980 grant wood --266,000
1981 mark twain --106,000
1982 louis armstrong --68,000
1983 robert frost --48,500
1984 helen hayes --34,000

half ounce GOLD MEDALLION mintage
1980 marian anderson --238,000
1981 willa carter --89,000
1982 frank lloyd wright --57,500
1983 alexander calder --12,000
1984 john steinbeck --33,000

 

The 'arts' concept was a nice idea but the designs have never attracted me although one can still pic these up for decent (very low over spot) prices from online vendors with ready supply.

 

I'm looking forward to the UH palladium, I think I'll definitely grab one, I only wonder what price it'd be set at.

 

2009 american eagle bullion one ounce silver - 17,264,500
2009 american eagle bullion one ounce gold - 779,500