1894 Morgan Guess The Grade

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  1. schnickelfritz48

    schnickelfritz48 Well-Known Member

    I'm in the MS-64 camp. She's a beauty, she's welcome in my collection.
     
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  3. Kozmo70

    Kozmo70 Active Member

    So when I bought this coin, I was looking for an upgrade better than an AU-50. I saw this coin and another one that was graded MS-62 that was high priced. I fell in love with this coin that is an AU-58 that looked way better than the MS-62 1894 and cost less than the MS coin. I feel like it is a ideal slider coin. There are some contact marks but by far this coin is the best looking and most luster for an AU coin I own.
     
  4. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

    AU-58 i can see it getting that grade. Wow man a lot of people were way off including myself pretty nice coin and in my opinion its under-graded by a few.
     
  5. Kozmo70

    Kozmo70 Active Member

    So I felt it was under graded too, but I am happy with it being an AU-58 as well, I am sure I could play the resubmit game over and over and try to edge it to a higher grade.
     
  6. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    As an AU 58, that coin is well-priced. I personally think it could grade as low grade MS—you might want to think of submitting to NGC, as it looks more like a baggy MS than a lightly circulated AU coin. I thought 62 to 63 tops, so you might be well-advised to do a grade specified submission to cross at minimum 61. It would be worth the investment. As an AU coin, you got a great deal.
     
  7. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    They were conservative.
     
  8. Kozmo70

    Kozmo70 Active Member

    So that is what blows my mind on grading companies, I have this 1896-O that graded MS-60, and I feel the 1894 is way better. 1046D018-E204-43B3-98DB-80DBB67344F6.jpeg B2C00BCB-CB9A-48A4-B029-6FFF53F01F3E.jpeg
     
  9. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

    Because its a key date coin and the rapid,high price increases into MS?
     
  10. Kozmo70

    Kozmo70 Active Member

    I would say they both jump up big in MS grades. Both are rather tough coins. The 1896-O would be a conditional rarity more than limited minting.
     
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  11. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    They were price-conservative. You are correct—it is better than the 96o. Take my word for this, it may well cross as MS. I went through this with my 1884s at AU 58, and it crossed, finally, after 2 attempts as a MS 60. If you get lucky, you have a huge price jump. Well worth the risk.
     
  12. Kozmo70

    Kozmo70 Active Member

    I’ll have to attempt it.
     
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  13. 1865King

    1865King Well-Known Member

    Not surprised at AU 58. I went with MS 63. AU 58 is hard to judge based on pictures. I just went back and looked at the coin and I can detect what might be a slight rub above the ear and possibly on the eagles breast. Nice slider.
     
  14. mike estes

    mike estes Well-Known Member

    hey Kozmo70 you got a good looking coin. I'm giving her a MS63. good luck man
     
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  15. cplradar

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  16. cplradar

    cplradar Talmud Chuchum


    AU-58s should look better than MS63s every day.
     
  17. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    How old is the slab? Just for grins. I am wondering this because either it is in a year slab where they went conservative (or still were).
    Or, there is something with the surfaces that the true view isn't capturing. It may be relegated to the 9 0clock areas on the coin and they looked past an area of concern.
    Still that is a beautiful Morgan, and you should be proud to have it at that grade.
     
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  18. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Nah, they are being conservative, due to the big monetary jump. That coin is MS, probably 62-63. I am pretty sure that if the OP is willing to cross it, it will cross as MS 60 or 61, and will double in value. In the Morgan series, which I know quite well, it is one of the 4 most conservatively graded coins, with 1884s being the most conservatively graded coin. However, I have seen many of those high AU coins cross as MS. There are contact marks on that coin, but I see no wear. That was simply an excuse for PCGS to cover its posterior, in terms of increasing grade conditional rarity.
     
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  19. cplradar

    cplradar Talmud Chuchum


    An AU58 should cross higher than an MS63. An AU58 is an MS68 with a minimal of wear on it somewhere, and is hardly noticeable.
     
  20. cplradar

    cplradar Talmud Chuchum

    BTW - I can't see it as an AU58 either. Not according to ANA standards. There is too much chatter on that coin to be a 58 anything.
     
  21. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    You are wrong. Those are typical Morgan bagmarks.
     
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