Please Grade US 1887 Seated

Picked this up the other day on the assumption that it was a MS??
What do you think??
Seems to have lots of luster remaining

 

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Based strictly on the pictures presented, I would venture to say a problem free, MS64. Nice acquisition.

 

Not sure if that's high point rub I see, or an effect of lighting. With that in mind, my opinion is AU58 or MS63-64.

 

I've checked it pretty closely and I see no rubs.
I tried to be the lighting to show the luster.

 

May I ask, what was the sellers suggested grade assigned at sale?

 

Low MS -
He was not too sure on the grade.

 

well, I would wait for some other opinion's, but I stay with mine. See what other folks here have to say as well.

 

according to my book luster is key. 60- luster dull, washed out, large detracting contact marks in all areas or damage spots, rim nicks may be present

63- slight impairment of mint luster a few scattered heavy marks permitted, numerous small contact marks, small hairline scratches visible without magnification

65-luster and strike are attractive, a few small and scattered contact marks or two larger marks permitted, one or two small patches of hairline scratches visible under magnification

The luster you could tell best, but as for marks and such yours seems to be at least a 65,

 

I'd be happy for MS-64.
I think anything higher is probably a stretch.
Only paid $60 USD, so I am more than happy with MS-64.
Note: this is going into my collection.
Maybe to be slabbed some day. For some reason, I cannot bring myself to slab coins. Only those where authenticity may be in question (dare I say 'trade dollars'.

 

I was using my coin world photo grader, they list 60, 63, and 65, I have zero experience with the seated liberties so I do not know how the coin is usually struck. I would suspect that you got a great deal, but dont hold me to that.

My 1965 red book lists the value for the philly mint as 9.50, the s mint marked one as 17.50, I bet they have risen since then.

 

MS 64= $315.00 @ grey sheet Dealer-Dealer

 

Maybe it's just from the pics but, it looks like there are some breaks in luster on the high points (head, flag, hand, and chest), and also on the left half of the obverse right by America. The reverse looks a lot better then the obverse. I would say AU, but I don't collect this series so I could be wrong, I'm interested to see what everyone else thinks.

* I circled the areas:

 

What you have highlighted, is very typical of Seated Dimes. This specimen is extremely well struck and plenty of Luster to go around, as far as I can ascertain from the pictures. Full Shield; Full Liberty; no apparent detriments on the Drapery. The Reverse graded alone, would be at least a 65.

 

Imo I don't believe this coin is "extremely well struck", there is little detail on liberty's head and chest, and there is almost no detail on the flag. Now if that's from wear, or a weak strike, I'm not sure.

Imo this would be an extremely well struck seated liberty dime: From Gerry Fortin's collection PCGS Set Registry - The Gerry Fortin Liberty Seated Dime Collection

 

Along with Raider's circles, I would add one on the knee/lower thigh. It is in my mind a High AU, but if what appears to be the gray color from rub/wear, is mainly toning, I would stand corrected to MS. I would go AU-55 to AU-58.

Jim

 

1887 Seated Liberty Dime

Here are Two MS 64's. The OP'S IMHO clearly has all the detail to warrant such a grade.

 

I would agree that the coin appears to be a MS-64! The dullness that hides some of the details was a result of the poor way it was stored. It looks like some of the Silver pieces I have seen come out of the Leather Bound albums. Storing coins in Leather Bound albums is risking your' coins to damage due to the salts and chemicals used in the Leather tanning processes.

On another note, it is hard and somewhat unreasonable to compare a MS 1887 Philadelphia minted Barber Dime with a MS one minted at San Francisco! During the late 1800's, San Francisco is well known for the hammered strikes on many coins they produced...especially the Seated Liberty and Barber series coins during this time period.


Frank

 

I'll Buy that coin for AU Money plus 20%

 

I think it's a solid 63 with a very nice reverse.

 

Yes , Two completely different things. It is an unjust comparison with a P-Mint to an S-mint strike.