Ohio Man Beaten To Death For Coin Collection

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Hobo, Jul 30, 2009.

  1. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    I wonder if this poor man would be alive today if he had not kept his coin collection at home. Luckily, the animals that kiiled this man were quickly arrested.

    Rootstown victim of home invasion, robbery dies

    All the more reason to store your coins in a safe deposit box.
     
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  3. kevcoins

    kevcoins Senior Roll Sercher

    People are sick
     
  4. AlexN2coins2004

    AlexN2coins2004 ASEsInMYClassifiedAD

    I hope molly and bubba get to have a few words with those guys in the slammer
     
  5. taurus876

    taurus876 Senior Member

    The article did not state the criminals knew he had a coin collection.

    He could have been picked out at random.

    The moral should be:

    Never let anybody in your house that you do not know.

    If somebody's car is disabled and they ask for help, offer to make the phone call for them. Talk to them through the door.
     
  6. fusiafinch

    fusiafinch Member

    sad

    Since the criminals tried to cash the coins for face value, it's unlikely they knew he had a collection. Probably just happenstance. If this were planned to steal the coin collection, I'd think that they would try to sell it for more than they did.

    But I don't think like these people, and I'm relieved that I don't.

    Very sad way to die. Bad stuff happens all the time.
    :mad:
     
  7. Vess1

    Vess1 CT SP VIP Supporter

    If he was picked out at random by thieves who obviously knew nothing about coins, he would have gotten beaten to death whether they were stored at home or not.
     
  8. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Home invasions are on the rise in my neck of the woods. Troubling indeed....
     
  9. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    Death penalty for Steven Hayes and Joshua Komisarjevsky?

    #1
    Ever since the 2007 Petit Home invasion in Cheshire CT, most folks in my neighborhood now keep their doors locked all the time when they are home.

    #2
    A 5" x 10" x 24" safe deposit box costs $130 per year at my nearest bank. It is a perfect size for holding two 5" stacks of 3-ring binders containing eagle 9-slab pages. Two 5" stacks equates to 18 eagle 9-slab pages or 162 coins. Of course, you could also fill the space with a bunch of slab boxes.

    Very best regards,
    collect89
     
  10. biggiej

    biggiej Member

    did you see that 2 of the guys that were areested in north carolina had been convicted over seas for bank robbery and were sentenced to have a hand and foot cut off, but some how it got overturned at the last minute. I think a few more of those sentences in the U.S would slow this down!!!!
     
  11. raider34

    raider34 Active Member

    Terrible news, but I'm glad to see the dirtbags got caught.
     
  12. Ripley

    Ripley Senior Member

    happens everyday....Endtimes fer sure.
     
  13. grizz

    grizz numismatist

    .......it's too bad that the coins weren't laced with a nice dose of ricin. would have served them right.
     
  14. vipergts2

    vipergts2 Jester in hobby of kings

    That's just sad. :mad:
     
  15. fusiafinch

    fusiafinch Member

    I guess the lesson to learn here is: Don't open your door in the middle of the night to a stranger, no matter what the reason. Call 911 immediately and let them sort it out.

    This guy grew up in a generation when you didn't have to worry about that, when perhaps you could trust people in this situation more? Maybe that's why he was more vulnerable.
     
  16. Just Carl

    Just Carl Numismatist

    Coin robbery reports are constantly on the increase but many, many are just not made big. Many people at coin shows complain about the lack of publicity of coin robberies but many law inforcement people claim that if you publicize such types of home invasions and robberies, they will actually increase as criminals see that people have coins laying around at home.
    People being followed from coin shows is also on the increase. In some areas home invasions are becoming so common, many do not make any news items due to just to common. At one time Murders in Chicago here were so common most never made the news at all, only the total amount of them. The City Morgue brings in so many bodies per weekend, that too is seldom reported in the news.
    We've had numerous robberies in my area and most people don't bother to report them if small. Garage robberies are so common around this area that people are afraid to look in thier garages in the mornings. Two home invasions not long ago on my block put one person in the hospital. Another was while people were on vacation.
    If you live in a high crime area it is smart to mainly just keep your mouth shut about coins, money, any valuables in the house. When people come over, make sure they don't see any valubles.
     
  17. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    Too bad he didn't have a gun. I'd rather he put a couple rounds into each of their heads. This is the fate any morons would face at my home.
     
  18. stainless

    stainless ANTONINIVS


    Then you go to jail......


    Besides, reading the quote Hobo posted, this guy didn't have a chance to grab his gun, regardless if he had one or not.



    stainless
     
  19. CrustyCoins

    CrustyCoins Twilight Photographer

    Very sad to here. I am very thankful that we live walking distance to the local police station and we have regular patrols in our neigbhorhood as it sounds like this person would have been beaten no matter what he had in the house.
     
  20. Vess1

    Vess1 CT SP VIP Supporter

    Wrong. If your life is threatened you have the right to use deadly force to stop the aggression. If he would have put a bullet in them, the cops probably would have shook his hand and left. Instead, he's dead now and the cops had to risk their lives to apprehend the suspects.

    He had a chance to grab a gun before he went to the door. I would never answer the door for an 'unexpected' guest at night with out my Glock. If it's during the day, I have other firearms I could get to very easily. So there's a good chance you won't hear about me getting beaten to death in my own home.

    Everyone else can worry about the laws and these animals' feelings. No, they're less than animals. You see, there's an element of society that is less than animals but nobody wishes to acknowledge, talk about or prepare for them.

    Who am I? I'm 'Joe Public'. And you can assume that 1 in every 'X' number of homes has somebody living there that thinks like me. So the bad guys take their chances.

    Sometimes these guys luck out and only get arrested after they beat someone to death. Sometimes not. Luckily, I'm a good person and I'm willing to give everyone a chance to be arrested before they are shot. I'm not interested in their background and I'm not the one looking for trouble.
    In this instance, as is typical with most crimes of this nature, the cops finally were able to show up to clean up the mess and fill out the report. So I guess it would seem we're primarily on our own when confronted with a similar situation. Forget about safety deposit boxes. I think the lesson learned is you're either ready to deal with this situation or you're not. You can make excuses till hell freezes over but it won't do you much good when these guys show up at your door.

    With more people falling on hard times, there will surely be increasing numbers of people more desperate than ever these days. And I think we're still in the good times for now.
     
  21. grizz

    grizz numismatist

    ........i agree, vess1
     
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