1955-s just a nice lookin coin for its age

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  1. yorkiedad5

    yorkiedad5 Senior Member

    found this in a roll today. looks new not bad for a 54 year old coin
     

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  3. coinman0456

    coinman0456 Coin Collector

    I still think it's a DDO
     
  4. CrustyCoins

    CrustyCoins Twilight Photographer

    Were there varying degrees of doubling? I seem to remember the 55 DDO has a much bolder more obvious doubling.
     
  5. coinman0456

    coinman0456 Coin Collector

    see poor mans DDO, however what is curious is that there are none known from the SFO mint/die. I have asked someone else to look at this coin and pictures. Hopefully he will be able to tell us something.
     
  6. weryon

    weryon World traveler - In Thailand

    I have to agree with you. It's a poor man's DDO; you can clearly see it on the snaps.

    Nice roll find !!!
     
  7. coppercoins

    coppercoins certifiably unstable

    Okay, I'm not really sure where to start...

    First off, there is no evidence in the images that this is a doubled die at all. I don't see any thick devices or notches that would signify it's a doubled die.

    Second, the term "poor man's double die" is a complete misnomer. The 1955 cents bearing this ill-chosen name were struck with worn dies - not doubled dies. And for information sake, this anomaly exists on far more than just 1955 cents. I have found examples for more than 15 different years in wheat cents alone. It's simple die wear folks...has nothing to do with doubled dies.

    Third, I believe this coin might be a repunched mintmark. I would have to see it more closely to tell for sure, but it appears there is a separation line on the top left curve of the S mintmark that would signify a repunching. It wouldn't add a lot to the value of the coin, but would qualify as a die variety.
     
  8. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    All I see is red can u take photo with out the red tone???
     
  9. yorkiedad5

    yorkiedad5 Senior Member

    hi i put new pics up its under (new pics of 1955-s for ya) take a look thanks bill
     
  10. coinman0456

    coinman0456 Coin Collector


    Thanks for you analysis Ed. The owner , bill will certainly see your post. Do you suggest he might want to have the Die Variety authenticated..or is it not to be bothered with?
     
  11. justafarmer

    justafarmer Senior Member

    I think it might be (RPM-004, WRPM-005, 1MM-004) but cannot say for sure. I'd say worth about $3.50 to $4.50 in MS63.
     
  12. coppercoins

    coppercoins certifiably unstable

    Hi again...

    The name is Chuck, not Ed.

    Anyhow, if this is an RPM, it has a value of between $10 and $15 depending ont he coin's grade. It would be worth knowing for sure, but I would not have it certified unless there is some specific sentimental reason to do so...like it being the first RPM the finder found, or maybe if it happens to be a new die and is the discovery coin. As for value alone, it would not qualify for the charge to certify the coin - but certainly is worth the attribution fee to have it closely inspected.
     
  13. coinman0456

    coinman0456 Coin Collector

    Thanks chuck. I'll be sure to let the op know if he has not read this. I suggested he contact you personally, as he is confident, (?) this may indeed be a DDo , as Liberty also indicates it.
     
  14. vipergts2

    vipergts2 Jester in hobby of kings

    Very nice for a roll find. Very cool. :thumb:
     
  15. bhp3rd

    bhp3rd Die varieties, Gems

    This is perfectly correct and,

    This is perfectly correct and was no doubt dreamed up by somebody wanting a premium for 1955 cents struck with worn out and overpolished dies.

    Folks if you are wanting to understand doublED dies learn about dies.
    The top, or highest point of the die when looking across it is the fields of the struck coin. Yes flat die top surfaces - the design is negative, in reverse so when it is polished or worn the design elements start to "round out" or get "scooped away". This is your poor mans doubled die, the blur of the "5" or whatever is mimicking the worn out portion of that die.
    The die that is a true doublED die, (in the case of the 1955 DDO-001) will also be flat across the top surfaces but in the encuse portion, the die images will be doubled - instead of 1 number 5 there will be 2 and not just the appearance of an extra 5, a real extra 5.
    The true 1955 doubled die could have been a true doubled die and also a poor mans doubled die had the die been kept in service long enough and polished but we know it was taken out of service after approx. 30,000 (or less) strikes. That means the die face remained pretty crisp with that low number of strikes.
     
  16. just coins

    just coins New Member

    Nice RPM I zoomed in and that's what it is for sure I see the doubled images no need to send it in.
    JC
     
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