I found this note in circulation some time ago, but long forgot its existance. I was searching for a different ntoe today and found it again. What do you think is going on with the prefix on this note? I can clearly see 2 G's almost on top of each other above the normal G, and a 3rd G spaced a little bit futher off of the 2nd G - although the last G is almost gone. The rest of the serial does not exhibit this ghosted appearance ... The 1st 2 G's look more like an 8 then G's ... but if you look just to the right of what looks like the 8, you will see the serrif from the G. Once you see the first G serrif, the second is much easier to see.
DJ.... The way this looks it can be 1 of 2 things according to Dr. Fred Bartt. In his book he references "stuck digits and stuck block letters. He says " Both the stuck digit and partially turned digit/letter result from the clogging of the numbering wheel on the cylinder that imprints the SN" Stuck Block letters and their counterparts, partially turned block letters appear indentical as the stuck digits/numbers. These are thought to occur from the press operator failing to accurately align the prefix and suffix letters before initiating a run. Hope this helps....I was just lurking after my Physcial Therapy appt..LOL Regards, RickieB
I would think, unless i didnt understand what Dr. Frett Bartt wrote, that if the prefix letter was stuck on the wheel, we would find 2 partially imprinted letters. yes? no? Lurk all you want Hope the PT wasnt all too painfull!!!!
There is no way for me to confirm what I am thinking w/o sending that note to Dr. Bartt, however, from what I have read in his book, it seems that you may very well have a note that had that stuck digit and was not aligned properly even after several attempts. I think this due to the "G" only impression. The alignment issue "may" have caused the ghosting on the "G" as you are seeing it. This is only an assumption on my part as there is not any printed examples in his book. I have an account at PCGS..if you want to send it in I will be happy to do this for you. Take care...ummm not lurking really....just all wired up on the pain meds..LOL Hope this makes sense? RickieB
No, a rolled/turned/stuck prefix would look like a car odometer in the process of turning over: the main G would be out of place, and if it was far enough off, you'd see part of an F or an H trying to roll into position. It wouldn't produce multiple copies of the G. This looks like something touched the note, picked up a bit of ink, and then deposited it again with a bit of a shift. It happens a lot with the green overprint, though I've never seen such clear images before.... The clearness *might* mean it happened at the BEP while the ink was still fresh, but then again it might not. Random thought: What's the serial number on this note? The most common place to see green-ink smearing is on notes with serials ending in 01 or especially 001. The first note of a strap is in contact with the inside of the paper strap itself, and the first note of a brick is also in contact with the shrink-wrap around the brick, and both of them can rub the note enough to move ink around a bit. If your note has that sort of serial, then I'm guessing that's the explanation, rather than any sort of printing error.
The serial is on a 2003 $1 note and is G37355372H. I alos notice there is a faint 'stripe' extending from the bottom edge of the note up to the G in the serial, where it then extends past in the strong G's above the serial. I will atache an image below and hopefully you will be able to see the faint strip below .... If you zoom in on the S in Series, you can really see a clear green 'dot' from this faint 'stripe'.
Hmmm...yeah, it really does look like there's a whole column of overlapping G's all the way down the note, some stronger than others. Never heard of that one before; I wonder what would cause it.... If it *did* happen at the BEP when the ink was fresh, it seems like it'd need some kind of wheel rolling across the sheets as they were being printed. But if that's how the freshly printed sheets are handled, why don't *all* notes look like this? I don't get it; I feel like I'm missing something.
You think it might be a good idea, as Rickie alluded too, to send it in to PCGS? or somebody else? to examine it more closely and find out what caused it? I have had this note for years, and its just been sitting in a sleeve since i picked it up.
so anyone have any 'guesses' to what i should do with the note? spend it, send it to someone to look at? get it graded...? im just not sure what would have caused it, so i dont know if there is any value to it above face.
DJ.... go to www.executivecurrency.com Dr. Bartt owns this company and he is in your State. I would call him and ask him to take a look at it. I still think it has something to do with the numbering wheel. It may heve been stuck and was released, cleaned (sort of) and all the impressions could be from re-alignment.....but hey, thats just a guess as I really have no idea! RB
Just thinking out loud. Was the prefix letter in the serial actually attached to a wheel that rotated, or is it a block that was manually changed? If it was a block that was manually changed and was not fully inserted prior to running a printing run, how close is the paper to the serial numbers immediately prior to the impression being made? I imagine there's a resting position after the numbers have been reinked immediately prior to the actually stamping of the paper. If we are talking about a tight clearance like less than a 1/16 of an inch and the letter was not properly seated, would it not possibly skip across the paper as the paper is moved into place? Just thinking out loud.
all i can say is OMG I got a response from the folks at the website RickieB suggested ... here is their response: not bad for a note found in circulation now i need to do a search to see what the black would look like... and then kick myself if i had seen them in the past and spent them lol now... a big question is if i should sell it... he said he had a collector of G error notes....
Holy cow, $50 for that!? No offense, but that error really doesn't do much for me when I look at it and I'm assuming Daggarjon that it didn't do much for you either (although you did save it as opposed to spending it).
im not an error guy really. So i saved it because i questioned what happened to it, not because i knew it would be worth more then face to somebody lol I dont get giddy when looking at it if thats what you mean if the note carries a premium now, i will save it and let that premium grow.. maybe someday my kid will be able to sell it for something else later on
