1881 CC Morgan Dollar

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Cigani, Jul 26, 2009.

  1. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Nice refrigerator magnets. Actually if you are in a coin club, you might consider marking them as -copy- and donating them to the club as study material. Probably most of us have a fake or two around just to remind us.

    Jim
     
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  3. Cigani

    Cigani New Member

  4. HandsomeToad

    HandsomeToad Urinist

    I wonder if they can be magnitized to use for refrigerator magnets? I think that would be an awesome use for them. :thumb:

    Ribbit :)
     
  5. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    Fridge magnets? I think that's a great idea! just scratch 'fake' or 'copy' on there somewhere in case somebody gets ahold of them later and has other ideas!! I hope this was not an expensive lesson for you.
     
  6. hillbillyricky

    hillbillyricky New Member

    you gotta look closer

    if the weight is not the sure give away then you need to look really close for very small dipples on the surface,it may be just one or two but they are usally there if fake, also where did you get?? ebay from china?? sure thing they are fakes if so,
     
  7. CC20gold

    CC20gold Junior Member

    I am sorry to hear they are counterfeit. There are a lot of them coming out of China these days. Hopefully you didn't pay too much :(
    I even have an 1844-CC Seated Lib I got for $3 from a dealer. It makes a great pocket piece.

    IMHO, I would recommend not buying CC silver dollars unless they are in original GSA holders or in grading service plastic (PCGS, NGC, ANACS or ICG only). If you buy the rarer GSA silver dollars like 1879-CC, 1890-CC or 1891-CC, make sure you closely examine the edge of the GSA plastic slab for tampering. Scammers like to try to create fake GSA's from cracked GSA cases in order to try to cash in on the "plastic premiums" of the rarer GSA's.
     
  8. zekeguzz

    zekeguzz lmc freak

    Please explain" heavy ridge" because my 82 Morgan Philly has heavy ridges on both sides. Also when do you think conterfeits were first made. Mine hasn't been out of the family for at least 80 years. zeke
     

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  9. HandsomeToad

    HandsomeToad Urinist

    Look at the rims where the arrows are pointing to (upper right side of coin):

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    Notice how high the rim is compared to the dentils attached to it? The height of the rim, in relation to the dentils, should be the same the whole way around the coin and it should not be that much higher than the dentils. ;)

    The reason this occurs on counterfeits is because they are using excessive force to stamp these out, because either the die is weak or the metal being used requires more pressure to strike the coin. :kewl: At least, that's how I understand it so maybe someone else can add more. :bow:

    Also, on the left side, where the arrows are pointing, look at the spacing between the dentils and compare the spacing to your example. ;)

    Ribbit :)
     
  10. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    Wow, what an amazing post!! I didn't see anything wrong for sure. Just another live and learn moment on CT... :hail:
     
  11. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    (Unfortunately for the OP :( ) Mr. Feld is correct again.
     
  12. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Sorry that the coins are counterfeit , I was wondering what you guys thought of the reeding , I thought they looked to be a little rough looking , not completely uniform and a little short . Or is that caused by the uneven planchet .
    rzage
     
  13. zekeguzz

    zekeguzz lmc freak


    Thank you. Really great observation and knowledge of the Morgan Dollar coin. This is what CT. is all about. I'm sure many more members will store that info in their memory banks.
     
  14. HandsomeToad

    HandsomeToad Urinist

    There's actually more wrong with these but the things I pointed out are what I look at first and if the coin doesn't pass those points, there ain't no reason to continue to authenticate an obvious counterfeit. ;)

    Ribbit :)
     
  15. Ahab

    Ahab Member

    Good, Good, Good, answer. I started collecting cartwheels before anyone thought to fake em. I'd like to have a fake just to show my grandkids what one looks like.Kiss
     
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