You might be in a bit of a gray area depending on what the advertisement said exactly. In 1942 there were no type 2 (silver) nickels minted in Denver. Only type 1 nickels were minted at the Denver mint. Check the mint marks closely on the type 1s, if you got a D/D or a D/ inverted D, then you would get the last laugh.
https://www.jmbullion.com/silver/junk-silver/35-silver-war-nickels/ They don't leave themselves a great deal of wiggle room here.
A high grade 1942 D is worth more than a 1942 P/S Silver, but your specimens don't appear to be high grade. 1942 D specimens were an Achilles heal when building my circulation set. Since getting that monkey off my back, I suppose I built most of a circulation roll. But high grade finds in the wild are difficult.
Well, finally got this all resolved, hopefully, and it was a much bigger pain than it should have been. JM stated they will send me out the 12 war nickels I was shorted in my order, so hopefully they stay true to that and do so...because I got a bunch of dissonance with different representatives that I was talking to. I reached one their reps on the phone who looked over the notes and said the same exact thing their email to me said: War nickels are 1942-1945, so basically, I got what I paid for. AGAIN I had to explain to her on the phone that the mint minted some non-war nickels in 1942 and that the distinguishing mark for war nickels was the mint mark above the Monticello, which my nickels didn't have. So she put me on hold and then after taking me off hold said it appeared I was correct from what she looked at, but that the department she was trying to reach regarding this was busy and she'd give me a call back. THEN while waiting for her call I got a response to my email from yesterday from a different representative saying, "We understand your concern. However, the years for war nickels are 1942 - 1945. If the coin has mint marks it will be located on the back of the coin above the building." Lol, so this time, this rep actually finally stated the correct criteria for a war nickel (which was not done in the previous email)...but apparently she or someone else didn't properly APPLY that criteria to the pics I sent them, as they show no mint mark above the Monticello. Kind of a cluster. Then the rep on the phone got back to me and said they will be sending me my war nickels and that I was correct. REALLY shouldn't have taken numerous emails, two different reps, and having to call them to finally get them to admit to this, but, they did end up finally admitting it and saying they would send me what I paid for. I expected that would happen eventually...just shouldn't have been this much work, so, that said, mixed feelings on this resolution. I just wonder how many people have been sent regular nickels instead of war nickels from JM...cuz from what they originally said in the email and on the phone, it seemed that their line was that all 1942-1945 nickels are war nickels...and in the $10 face lot I received I got 12, not just a few on accident, but 12. So again, it seems they likely were not understanding what actually constitutes a war nickel from the fact that I got so many and that they were initially arguing that it is the date which makes a war nickel a war nickel.
I'm wondering exactly the same thing. I'm glad you were able to get them sorted out for your order, at least.
Makes me wonder...If other orders were the same and people received them and just figure - oh it's only $24- not worth the hassle of multiple calls, emails and fools to deal with. I just figure that whomever assembled the nickels at the coin dealer should be in the know about how to distinguish the difference, or rather, do they care?
It sounds like JM Bullion has employees that know NOTHING about coins. I've never purchased from them, now I never will.
Not one employee at JM was stupid enough to pay $1.25 each for 1942 nickels, I wager. I suppose it's possible they got mixed accidently. May I ask what these cost?
Should have added a couple in AU Did you mention we have a conversation going on CoinTalk? Good PR goes a long way Bad PR stinks, even after the skunk is scraped off the middle of the road
I think the problem stems from just referring to them as "war nickels". Nickels struck form 1942 - 1945 were struck during the war so are "war nickels". What need to be stressed was that the ad was for SILVER war nickels and that in 1942 nickels were made in both coppernickel AND in silver. You ordered the silver ones and 12 of the coins received were NOT the silver ones.
I forget the dollar amount, but it was basically at spot. I think the whole order, not per ounce, but the whole order, was one or two dollars above spot. As an aside, I picked some up from my local dealer the other day for under spot...I think spot was $1.50 per coin and I paid $1.25 per coin. As another aside, I think war nickels are pretty underrated. I mean, they track the price the silver, just like all other silver, and you can get them at or below spot, so...I mean, the biggest downside I see is the liquidity. Not going to be as easy to sell as, say, a silver eagle, of course. The other downside (which I don't see as much of a downside, but maybe I'm missing something), is that being a lower silver content, it would cost more to refine them than other silver. But in reality, when are any of these small bars or coins melted down, or need to be melted down, unless someone is doing it as a hobby? Anyway, I think they are underrated. Lastly, I guess they are not as shiny, but I like em. Like the history behind them too...
Didn't mention our little conversation. I don't have any bones to pick with any of these online companies...I just detailed what happened, and people can decide to do business with them or no. Frankly, I will likely still do business with them in the future if the price is right, and depending on the product. But, I will be a bit more reluctant, for sure.
I see what you are saying, absolutely, but if that were true, then 1941 nickels would be "war nickels" too, right? And they are not. Seems to me that "war nickel" is a term of art, and it refers to the silver ones, made silver because of the war and removing the nickel in them. These companies should really know better. And as you said, the ad said silver. Are there ANY ads out there with any online coin companies that call nickels "war nickels" but DON'T advertise their silver content? I doubt it, but maybe.
And 39 & 40. Wasn’t official but my great-uncle died flying with the Canadian Air Force before Pearl Harbor. Lt. Victor Giles The local VFW in my hometown is named in his honor
AND those Buffalos minted during WW 1, AND any other war....no, a War Nickel has referred to those 35% silver Jeffersons for YEARS. To me there is NO EXCUSE.
To a coin collector or numismatist Nar Nickels does refer to the 35% silver nickels struck in 1942 to 45, to anyone else the term CAN simply refer to ANY nickel struck during a period of declared (or even undeclared) war. JM Bullion may deal in coins but I don't see it as their primary business which is precious metals/bullion. It wouldn't surprise me is some or possibly a fair number of their staff don't understand what war nickels are.