Great Britain farthing 1868

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  1. SRSNUM

    SRSNUM Well-Known Member

    The Great Britain farthing of 1868 obverse described and imaged below (coin in hand) along with images of the two reverse varieties indicated on the Aboutfarthings website also imaged below, appear to indicate a possible new die pair variety for 1868. As there is a limit of 10 images per post, the reverse images will appear in follow-up posts. All comments
    most welcome.

    COIN IN HAND
    GREATBRITAINFARTHING1868OBV.jpg


    OBVERSE 3 1868 FARTHING-ALLABOUTFARTHINGS SITE
    1868-VB-3B-Obv.jpg

    CIH
    GREATBRITAINFARTHING1868OBV2.jpg

    OBVERSE 3, 1868 FARTHING,ALLABOUTFARTHINGS SITE
    1868-VB-3B-Obv2.jpg

    CIH
    GREATBRITAINFARTHING1868OBV6.jpg

    OBVERSE 3, 1868 FARTHING,ALLABOUTFARTHINGS SITE
    1868-VB-3B-Obv6.jpg
     
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  3. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    Very Nice Coin ! Thanks for sharing . :happy:
     
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  4. SRSNUM

    SRSNUM Well-Known Member

    Continuing with CIH and Reverse B from Allaboutfarthings site.

    CIH
    GREATBRITAINFARTHING1868REV.jpg

    Allaboutfarthings B reverse
    1868-VB-3B-Rev.jpg

    CIH
    GREATBRITAINFARTHING1868REV2.jpg

    Allaboutfarthings B reverse
    1868-VB-3B-Rev6.jpg

    CIH
    GREATBRITAINFARTHING1868REV3.jpg

    Allaboutfarthings B reverse
    1868-VB-3B-Rev2.jpg

    CIH
    GREATBRITAINFARTHING1868REV4.jpg

    Allaboutfarthings B reverse
    1868-VB-3B-Rev3.jpg

    RIC
    GREATBRITAINFARTHING1868REV5.jpg

    Allaboutfarthings B reverse
    1868-VB-3B-Rev4.jpg
     
  5. SRSNUM

    SRSNUM Well-Known Member

    Continuing with CIH reverse (repeated for clarity) and Reverse Ba from Allaboutfarthings site. In addition, some observations of the obverse of the coin in hand and obverse 3 on the AAF website (see images above).

    CIH
    GREATBRITAINFARTHING1868REV.jpg

    Allaboutfarthings Ba reverse
    1868-VB-3Ba-Rev.jpg

    CIH
    GREATBRITAINFARTHING1868REV2.jpg

    Allaboutfarthings Ba reverse
    1868-VB-3Ba-Rev6.jpg

    CIH
    GREATBRITAINFARTHING1868REV3.jpg

    Allaboutfarthings Ba reverse
    1868-VB-3Ba-Rev2.jpg

    CIH
    GREATBRITAINFARTHING1868REV4.jpg

    Allaboutfarthings Ba reverse
    1868-VB-3Ba-Rev3.jpg

    CIH
    GREATBRITAINFARTHING1868REV5.jpg

    Allaboutfarthings Ba reverse
    1868-VB-3Ba-Rev4.jpg

    Some observations to strengthen the case for the CIH as a new die pair. First the obverse. Referring back to the images of the CIH and obverse 3 above:

    For the CIH, the 'V' in 'VICTORIA' is far from the inner circle.
    For the AAF obverse 3, the upper left serif of the 'V' in
    'VICTORIA' almost touches the inner circle whereas the upper right serif of the 'V' is far from the inner circle.
    All denticles in the CIH above 'VICTORIA' do not touch the inner circle.
    The denticle above upper right serif of the 'V' and the denticle above the upper left serif of the 'I' in 'VICTORIA' from the AAF obverse 3 touch the inner circle.

    All CIH denticles above 'BRIT' are far from the inner circle.
    All AAF obverse 3 denticles above 'BRIT' touch or nearly touch the inner circle.
    In the CIH, 'BRIT' appears uniformly far from the inner circle. In the AAF obverse 3 'BRIT', appears close to the inner circle with the upper left of the 'T' closer to the inner circle than the upper right of the 'T'.

    These differences to my eye appear sufficient to recognize a new obverse die for the CIH.

    Will follow-up later with observations about the 1868 farthing CIH reverse and the AAF B and Ba reverses.
     
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