Ancients - 2 Unit Denomination; Anyone have any TWOs?

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  1. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Please post your coins that represent 2 Units OR 1/2 of a Denomination. Many times these are very common denominations, sometimes they can be very difficult to acquire.

    Here are some of mine:

    SEXTANS (2 Unciae)
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    ETRURIA / UMBRIA
    3rd century BCE
    Æ Aes Grave Sextans
    23mm, 25.15 g, 12h
    Obv: Club
    Rev: •• (mark of value).
    Ref: Vecchi & Thurlow 172; ICC 199; HN Italy 54.
    Ex: CNG


    DIOBOL
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    Apollonia Pontika, Thrace.
    AR diobol
    1.3g
    410/404-341/323 BCE
    Obv: Full-face laureate Apollo with short hair.
    Rev: Magistrate's initals around the images. Upright anchor with thick flukes and a rectangular stock. The letter A on one side and the additional symbol of a crab viewed from above on the other side between flukes and the stock.
    Topalov 56
    Ex: @red_spork


    DIDRACHM
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    Sicily Gela
    AR Didrachm, c. 490-475 BC
    Gela, Sicily .
    AR Didrachm (21 mm, 8.2 g),
    ca. 490-475 BC.
    Obv. Horseman riding right, casting javelin.
    Rev. Forepart of man-headed bull right, ΓEΛAΣ below.
    SNG ANS 19.
    Ex: FSR


    DISHEKEL
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    Zeugitania, Carthage.
    After 241 BCE
    Æ Dishekel (27 mm, 10.81 g, 12 h).
    Wreathed head of Tanit left /
    Horse standing right; in background, palm tree.
    MAA 45; SNG Copenhagen 253. Scarce issue. Dark brown-green patina with scattered deposits. Good fine.
    Comments: This coinage appears to have been struck in the aftermath of the First Punic War (264-241 B.C.), when Carthage faced a serious revolt of its mercenary forces. This conflict, known as the Truceless War (240-238 B.C.), resulted in the rise of Hamilcar Barca to prominence and provided a Roman for intervening in Sardinia. Hamilcar's son, Hannibal, would later raise the banner of war and come close to destroying Rome in the Second Punic War (218-201 B.C.)
    Ex: Triskeles


    Please post your coins that represent 2 Units OR 1/2 of a Denomination.
     
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  3. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    By weight, these are thought to be the diassarion denomination from this city.

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    Septimius Severus, AD 193-211.
    Roman provincial Æ 18.6 mm, 4.37 g, 7 h.
    Moesia Inferior, Marcianopolis, AD 193-211.
    Obv: ΑV Κ CΕΠΤΙ CΕΥΗΡΟC Π, laureate, draped and cuirassed bust right.
    Rev: MAPKIA-NOΠOΛITΩ-N, Herakles standing left, wrestling the Nemean lion.
    Refs: AMNG I 585 v.; Varbanov 710; Moushmov 397; H&J 6.14.14.5-6; Mionnet Suppl. 2, 126.


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    Julia Domna, AD 193-217.
    Roman provincial Æ 16.8 mm, 4.33 g, 1 h.
    Moesia Inferior, Marcianopolis, AD 193-211.
    Obv: IOVΛIA ΔO-MNA CEB, bare-headed and draped bust right.
    Rev: MAPKIANOΠOΛITΩN, Herakles standing right, wrestling the Nemean lion.
    Refs: AMNG I 606; Varbanov 673; Moushmov 419; SNG Copenhagen --; SNG Budapest --.
     
  4. DonnaML

    DonnaML Well-Known Member

    Great coins!

    Mysia, Kyzikos, AR Diobol, ca. 450-400 BCE:

    Mysia, Kyzikos, Boar-Lion diobol, jpg version.jpg

    Islands off Caria, Rhodos, Rhodes, AR Didrachm, ca. 340-316 BCE:

    Caria, Rhodes (Helios - Rose) jpg version.jpg

    Lucius Verus AR Didrachm 161-166 AD, Caesarea, Cappadocia:

    Lucius Verus Didrachm, Cappadocia (Caesarea), Mt. Argaeus rev., LAC.jpg
     
  5. DonnaML

    DonnaML Well-Known Member

    I guess the Dupondius should count too, as two Asses.

    Augustus with Agrippa:

    Augustus-Agrippa Dupondius.jpg

    Julia Titi:

    Julia Titi - Vesta dupondius jpg version.jpg

    Hadrian:

    Hadrian dupondius, Virtus reverse with parazonium.jpg

    Don't worry; I won't post any "double-denarii" or antoniniani!
     
  6. Choucas

    Choucas Well-Known Member

    (double sest.) P M TR P COS II P P.jpg
    Postumus - Double sestertius, mint II (even though this one is lighter than most dupondii or asses).
    Obv. : IMP C POSTVMVS · P · F · AVG
    Rev. : PM TR P COS II P P / -|- /
    Bastien 350
    7.98g

    (double sest.) LAETITIA AVG.jpg
    Another one while we're at it.
    Postumus - Double sestertius, mint II
    Obv. : IM C M CA POSTVMVS P F AVG (sic) / B
    Rev. : LA[TITI]A | AVG (sic)
    Bastien 346var ; Méricourt-L'abbé 25 (same dies) ; Néry 37 (same dies)
    13,42g

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    And a chinese 2 cash
    Xuan He Tong Bao / 宣和通寶 (seal script) - 2 wen
    Xuanhe (1119-1125), sixth era of Huizong, eight empeor of the Northern Song dynasty, between 1100 and 1126.
    33mm ; 7.57g
    Hartill #16.475
     
  7. Justin Lee

    Justin Lee I learn by doing

    Here's an Alexandrian diobol of Trajan:
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    Trajan
    AE Diobol, Alexandria, Egypt
    Year 12, Struck 108/109 AD
    Obverse: Laureate and draped bust right.
    Reverse: Agathodaemon-serpent r., coiled about kerykeion and grain ears; L-IB (RY 12) across field.
    References: Emmett 643 (R3)
    Size: 23mm, 7.92g


    Here's a half shekel:
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    Zeugitania, Carthage
    AE Half Shekel, Second Punic War (218-201 BC)
    Struck 215-201 BC
    Obverse: Wreathed head of Tanit left.
    Reverse: Horse standing right, head left; Punic letter ‘Beth’ or ‘Bet’ below.
    References: SNG Cop 273, MAA 95a, Müller 206
    Size: 16mm, 2.46g


    And a half unit from the Iberian peninsula:
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    Hispania, Castulo,
    AE Half Unit (Semis), mid 2nd century BC

    Obverse: Diademed male head to right; palm-branch before.
    Reverse: Bull advancing right, head facing; crescent with central dot above; Iberian “KASTILO” in exergue.
    References: CNH p. 336, 42; SNG BM Spain 1345
    Size: 22mm, 5.3g
     

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  8. Andres2

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  9. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

    Great thread idea @Alegandron with some great coins ta boot! That is one sexy Sexton from Eutruria:cigar: Bulky club and very fun patina colors:singing:
    Here's a tiny double:
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    IONIA, Phokaia(?).
    Circa 6th-5th century BC. AR Hemidrachm or Diobol (10mm, 1.57 gm). Head of griffin left / Quadripartite incuse square. BMC Ionia pg. 215, 82; SNG Copenhagen -; SNG Kayhan 514; SNG von Aulock 2116 var. (seal right). Good VF, porous, small flan. Ex-Savoca
    Similar pieces with a seal behind the griffin's head are clearly Phokaian (as von Aulock 2116). Coins without the seal are possibly from Teos. Depending on the weight standard that might apply, this coin could be either a hemidrachm or a diobol.

    Does that mean this is a whole as or just half as:facepalm:?
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    Pretty sure it's a whole as.
    And so by that math, this is about a whole and a half:wacky:
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  10. rrdenarius

    rrdenarius non omnibus dormio Supporter

    How about a Sextan or 1/6th of an As? My 2 VNCIA cast coins, two dotters all.
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  11. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Wow, no one has posted an antoninianus yet.

    Here's another double sestertius of Gallic bad boy Postumus:

    Postumus

    A.D. 260

    Ӕ Double Sestertius, 32mm 24.3 grams

    Obverse: L IMP C M CASS LAT POSTVMUVS P F AVG; radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right.

    Reverse: P M TR P COS II PP S C; Emperor in military attire stg. l.; holding globe and spear.

    Reference: RIC V Lugdunum 106

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  12. Scipio

    Scipio Well-Known Member

    roman republic double litra, 275BC 4D3674D4-70CB-4B65-A27A-291EDA9F034C.jpeg 8FB2DE68-78C0-4D92-BE8A-0779E8E50365.jpeg

    O: Female head on the right, with long hair held in place by a ribbon; (usually) a necklace around the neck.

    R: Lion on the right; (usually) he holds in his jaws a broken spear on which he holds his left paw. In exergue ROMANO
     
  13. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    DOUBLE VICTORIATUS

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    THESSALY, Thessalian League.
    AR Double Victoriatus / Stater, 21mm, 5.7g, 12h; c. 50 BC.
    Obv.: Laureate head of Zeus right.
    Rev.: ΘEΣΣA-ΛΩN; Athena Itonia walking right, brandishing spear and holding shield; magistrates ΔAMOΘOI/NOΣ above, ΘIΛOΞENOΣ below.
    Reference: SNG Copenhagen 299 var. (placement of names).
    Ex: John Anthony
    Comments: The Thessalian league was a loose confederation of feudal Greek city-states. After the Second Macedonian War (200-197 BCE), the victorious Roman general T. Quinctius Flamininus declared all of Greece "free." He organized the Thessalian league, creating a federal council, the synedrion, with annually changing officers, strategoi. The seat of the league was in the largest Thessalian city, Larissa, and it continued to exist even after Thessaly became part of the new Roman province of Macedonia in 146 BC.
    These medium-sized silver coins are what you might call Roman Republic provincials, and they were even given a name from RR nomenclature: double victoriatii.


    DOUBLE SHEKEL
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    Zeugitania. Carthage
    ca First Punic War, 264-241 BC.
    Double Shekel,
    26 mm., 13,9 gm.
    Obv: Wreathed head of Tanit left
    Rev: Horse standing right; star above.
    SNG Copenhagen 185. Rare


    DOUBLE LITRA

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    Roman Republic
    Anon
    AE Double-Litra
    275-270 BCE
    Apollo
    Lion
    Sear 590 Craw 16-1a
     
  14. JayAg47

    JayAg47 Well-Known Member

    My brand new, but a 2000+ y/o Augustus quinarius, aka 1/2 denarius! Augustus q.jpg
    And a Mesembrian Thrace Corinthian helmet diobol (450-350 BC)- 1.16g mes.jpg
     
  15. Curtisimo

    Curtisimo the Great(ish)

    Fun thread @Alegandron !

    Didrachm
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    Cyrenaica
    Cyrene AR didrachm, struck ca. 308-277 BC
    Magas as Ptolemaic governor
    Dia.: 20 mm
    Wt.: 7.62 g
    Obv.: Bare head of Apollo-Carneius right, with horn
    Rev.: K-Y / P-A, silphium plant, cornucopia in inner right field
    Ref.: SNG Copenhagen 1234; BMC 228
    Formerly slabbed by NGC


    Double denarius
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    Roman Empire
    Gordian III (238-244)
    AR Antoninianus, Rome mint
    Dia.: 24.5 mm
    Wt.: 3.89g
    Obv: IMP GORDIANVS PIVS FEL AVG; Radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right.
    Rev: VIRTVTI AVGVSTI; The Farnese Hercules: statue of Hercules right, with apples of the Hesperides and lion skin, and leaning upon club.
    RIC 95.
    Ex Michael Higley Collection with tag; Ex AMCC 1, lot 236 (Dec. 2018)
     
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  16. DonnaML

    DonnaML Well-Known Member

    You've reminded me of my own two "Double Victoriati," together with a footnote explaining that CNG no longer uses the term.

    Thessaly, Thessalian League (under Roman Republic from 146 BCE, Province of Macedonia). Late 2nd-mid 1st centuries BCE, AR Stater ( = Double Victoriatus* = 1.5 denarius), Magistrates Sosipatros and Gorgopas. Obv. Laureate head of Zeus right / Rev. Helmeted Athena Itonia advancing right, holding shield with left hand and preparing to hurl spear with right hand; vertical legend ΘΕΣΣΑ-ΛΩN to left and right of Athena; [ΣΩ]ΣIΠ-ATPOΣ above spear; ΓOPΓΩΠΑΣ in exergue. BCD** Thessaly II 861.2 [CNG, The BCD Collection of the Coinage of Thessaly, Triton XV Auction, Jan. 3, 2012, Lot 861.2 (this coin)]; HGC 4, 209 [Hoover, Oliver, Handbook of Coins of Northern and Central Greece: . . . Thessaly . . . ., Sixth to First Centuries BC, The Handbook of Greek Coinage Series,Vol. 4 (2014)]; SNG Soutzos 397 [Tsourti, E. and Trifiro, M.D., Sylloge Nummorum Graecorum, Greece 5: Numismatic Museum, Athens, The A. G. Soutzos Collection (Athens, 2007)]; Klose pp. 339 & 346, 2 (same dies) [Klose, D.O.A, "Zur Chronologie der thessalischen Koinonprägungen im 2. und 1. Jh. v. Chr., Ein weiterer Schatzfund aus Südthessalien," in Peter, Ulrike. ed., Stephanos nomismatikos: Edith Schönert-Geiss zum 65. Geburtstag (Berlin, 1998), at pp. 333-350]. 22 mm., 6.08 g., 2 h. [According to Basil C. Demetriadi: From Franke Hoard, Greece, found Summer 1983.]

    Thessaly BCD II 861.2 Triton XV (jpg Paint version).jpg

    Thessaly, Thessalian League (under Roman Republic from 146 BCE, Province of Macedonia). Mid-late 1st century BCE, AR Stater ( = Double Victoriatus* = 1.5 denarius), Magistrates Italos and Diokles. Obv. Head of Zeus right, wearing oak wreath, [ITAΛOY] [behind head, off flan] / Rev. Helmeted Athena Itonia advancing right, holding shield with left hand and preparing to hurl spear with right hand; vertical legend ΘΕΣΣΑ-ΛΩN to left and right of Athena; ΔIO-KΛHΣ above spear, N-I across field. BCD Thessaly II 874.4 [CNG, The BCD Collection of the Coinage of Thessaly, Triton XV Auction, Jan. 3, 2012, Lot 874.4 (this coin)]; HGC 4, 210 ; McClean II 4797-4798 [Grose, S., Catalogue of the McClean Collection of Greek Coins, Fitzwilliam Museum, Vol. II, The Greek Mainland, the Aegean islands, Crete (Cambridge, 1926)]. 20 mm., 6.09 g., 12 h.

    Thessaly BCD II 874.4 Triton XV (jpg Paint version).jpg

    * [Applicable to both coins] CNG did not use the term “Double Victoriatus” in the Triton XV catalog, and apparently has not used it in general since at least 2006, because of the absence of evidence that that term was used contemporaneously in Thessaly.
     
  17. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Agreed, true. I have seen that writeup, and thanks. I knew someone would toss that out.

    I also take a perspective: Rome CONQUERED Makedon, Thessaly, Greece. Sometimes, looking at the way the Roman Republic did things: "We are the masters, so we will issue a DOUBLE Victoriatus... you can call it what you want in the Province we created from your conquered territory." :)
     
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  18. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    HALFSIES

    HALF SHEKEL


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    Bruttium, Carthaginian Occupation
    AR Half-Shekel.
    3.26g, 19mm, 12h.
    Punic mint in Bruttium, circa 216-211 BC. Struck during the Second Punic War.
    Obv: Wreathed head of Tanit left
    Rev: Horse standing right; solar disk above, Punic letter 'ayin' below.
    Ref: SNG Copenhagen 361-3; HN Italy 2016.
    Ex: Roma Numismatics


    HALF-SIGLOS

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    Thrace, Byzantion
    AR Half-Siglos,
    ca. 340-320 BC
    Obv.: Bull standing left on dolphin / ΠY
    Rev.: Incuse granulated mill-sail pattern.
    Reference: SNG BM Black Sea 21; SNG Copenhagen 476
    Comments: Byzantion was an ancient Greek colony that would eventually become Constantinople. According to legend, it was settled by Byzas, king of the Megarans, sometime around 657 BC
    Ex: @John Anthony


    HALF-LITRA
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    Roman Republic
    Anon
    AE Half-Litra
    234-231 BCE
    Roma
    Phrygian Dog
    Sear 598 Craw 26-4
     
  19. Carl Wilmont

    Carl Wilmont Well-Known Member

    Here are "2" and "1/2" Prutot of Herod the Great:

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    Judaea. Herodians. Herod I (The Great). Æ 2-Prutah. Undated, 40-4 BC. HPOΔOY BACIΛEOC, cross within closed diadem. / Tripod table with object upon it, flanked by palm branches. Hendin 1178. 3.62g, 17mm, 12h.

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    JUDAEA, Herodians. Herod I (the Great) (40 - 4 BC). Æ Half-Prutah (14.4 mm, 1.09 gm). Jerusalem mint. Undated, circa 26-23 BC. BACIΛEΩCHPΩΔOY in concentric circles (name of Herod the King), dotted border. / Anchor within a circle decorated with vertical lines or rays. Green patina. Reference: Hendin 1175.
     
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  20. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Double sestertius:
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    TRAJAN DECIUS
    AE Double Sestertius. 32.59g, 36.1mm. Rome mint, AD 250. RIC IV 115a; Cohen 39; Banti 9. O: IMP C M Q TRAIANVS DECIVS AVG, radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right. R: FELICITAS SAECVLI, Felicitas standing to left holding long caduceus and cornucopia; S-C across field.
    Ex Dr C. Haymes Collection; ex Bruce R. Brace Collection (CNG 90, 23 May 2012, lot 1678)

    Double antoninianus (so, technically, a double double denarius):
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    TACITUS
    Billon Double Antoninianus. 3.05g, 24mm. Tripolis mint, Jan - Jun AD 276. New RIC V/1 Online temp no. 4113. O: IMP C M CL TACITVS AVG, radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right. R: CLEMENTIA TEMP, Mars standing left, holding Victory, spear and shield; * in left field, IA in exergue.
    Ex Terence Cheeseman (“Maple Leaf”) Collection
     
  21. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    WOW, EVERYBODY! Great coins! Thank you for showing your Deuces and Halvsies! Great stuff... Keep 'em coming!
     
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