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Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by stella, Jul 21, 2009.

  1. the_man12

    the_man12 Amateur Photographer

    You're definitely right about the FE. 63/64 if it even grades. The quarter eagle looks like the pictures were taken while the camera was blocking the light source and I don't think it is cleaned. That being said, I think I was a little generous with the grade. Probably a 64 or so.
     
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  3. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    With all those marks on it? There are very tiny marks on the reverse, and even some big ones as well, followed by the scratch on the obverse near the jaw. Better pictures would be needed but I still think 64-65 is too high, and it might not grade with that scratch on the obverse
     
  4. the_man12

    the_man12 Amateur Photographer

    Alright you win! Are you happy? :smile
     
  5. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    It is not about "winning".
    I feel that you over graded the coin, and this is a series that I study, and pay attention to.:cool:
     
  6. the_man12

    the_man12 Amateur Photographer

    And it's a series I don't pay attention to so you're most likely right.
     
  7. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    LOL! It is a rough series to grade, especially from pics.
    Lots of coins are over graded some are undergraded, when buying in this series, it is always best to do it graded by a respectable TPG, and to always make sure you know how to grade them somewhat.
    I still believe better pictures are needed to accurately grade the coin in question
     
  8. Dollar1948

    Dollar1948 New Member

    OK possibly meant as a Joke but I am deleating it before it gets out of hand and into a shooting war, Guy's this is a coin forum not a spelling lesson so let it be and play nice.


    Nice coins BTW
     
  9. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    I would grade the 1914-D as a VF20, and the Indian gold as a AU-55. As for the Saint and the Flying eagle, I am not sure if the lines/marks are on a plastic over them as they appear to be in some sort of foam, and I can see a couple of lines which appear to extend from the coin to the surround, so I am unsure whether to count the marks or not on the grading. Please let me know if that is the case.

    Jim
     
  10. stella

    stella The Myth

    all A+ feedback
     
  11. Breakdown

    Breakdown Member

    Not a collector of any of these series but it sure looks like you did well. I do fear the Flying Eagle is cleaned. St. Gaudens I'll say MS64. Lincoln EF40. I won't even guess on the quarter eagle. Good looking group --congrats and enjoy. Let us know how they slab.
     
  12. Breakdown

    Breakdown Member

    Well, somehow I didn't see the second page of comments and it looks like I was way off grading the Lincoln. The wheat stalks looked better to me than you folks think but I defer to those who know the series (I don't). I'm sorry to see others have concerns about the FE.
     
  13. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    The FEC appears to have MS details, but are those hairlines I see beneath the eagle?

    The St. looks like MS65 to me.

    The Linc looks circ. (LOL, not my series!)

    The Indian appears to have AU details, but from the photos has a polished or dipped, not lustrous look to it, so hard to say.
     
  14. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    Remember, you asked for it....

    The FEC is very nicely struck for the issue. However, I suspect it's been cleaned and will come back from PCGS with altered surfaces or cleaned. It also appears to have PVC or a light green corrosion spot in the obverse field that concerns me. If it does slab, I would expect a low MS grade, something like 61 or 62, but I don't think that is likely.

    The St. Gaudens looks to me like an AU 63. In other words, it could come back AU 58, could come back 62 or 63. The photos, however, don't show the leg well, and you really need to get a good look at this detail to be able to grade these, so please consider my comments with this in mind. It does appear to have very nice luster, and of the coins you posted, this is my favorite.

    The grainy photo of the 14-d has me really, really confused. It appears to have VF details, but I can't get a feel for what the surfaces of the coin really look like. There is some odd streaking that makes me say cleaned, but it almost looks like banding noise on a low-end digicam. I don't feel comfortable even guessing if this coin will or will not slab.

    The Indian quarter eagle looks to me to have mint state or AU details, but it appears polished in the photos, so therefore I suspect it won't slab.

    Said bluntly, I would strongly recommend not buying any more coins until you have the requisite experience to spot problem coins. Alternatively, and if you are going to drop this kind of dough, I would strongly recommend that you find a good dealer or three (i.e. not the ones you bought these coins from) and buy from them exclusively.

    All of the above in my honest opinion, respectfully submitted, and looking forward to the update from PCGS showing I'm 100% dead wrong....Mike
     
  15. the_man12

    the_man12 Amateur Photographer

    I think a lot of it is the pictures.
    #1 take the coins out of the 2x2s before you shoot them.
    #2 you need better lighting (two fluorescent lights at 10 and 2 o'clock).
    #3 Use the macro setting instead of a loupe (if you are using one) if not, back up away from the coin
    #4 take advice from someone more knowledgable than me http://www.coinimaging.com/photography.html
     
  16. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    NOTE: I'm on dial up so that along with the crudy pic's posted...

    FEC: 62

    $20 Gold: 58

    Cent: - sorry, but you can't grade a coin you can't see. For all we know there are large rim-nicks that will BB it.

    $2.50 Gold: Body-Bagged - cleaned/stratched.

    Speedy
     
  17. stella

    stella The Myth

    im gonna upload better pictures of it now, thats under plastic
     
  18. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Good. I interpret that the beginning photo had plastic over the coins. If so, the photos with out the plastic will tighten up the wide range of grades.

    Jim
     
  19. jloring

    jloring Senior Citizen

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  21. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    What? So if the coin was cleaned by lets say you, or cleaned when you got it, you are not responsible for not saying it is cleaned, and saying it is a gem? So selling the coin as-is, and you need the cash. Question, why buy the coins in the first place?

    Very impressive, a WHOLE 10 feedbacks.


    Starting to question these purchases, and the auctions and coins a little more...
     
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