Groschens, Thalers, Where Can I Learn More?

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by Mkm5, Feb 18, 2021.

  1. Mkm5

    Mkm5 Well-Known Member

    Hey guys, I've been looking into some Polish coins from the 1620s.

    Can't seem to find much information on the varieties, size, weight, etc.

    Also seems like other countries also used the same or similar names for coin denominations?

    Can anyone help me find resources to learn more about these coins?

    An example:

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    Thanks in advance!

    Mike
     
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  3. The Eidolon

    The Eidolon Well-Known Member

    Have you looked down the Comments in the Numista entries?
    Not only will they often have many of the lettering variants listed,
    but sometimes they will have the reference work listed.
    Example: I don't know if this is your coin above, but the reference cited is "Kopicki".
    There really are a ton of variants in coins of this era, so if your coin doesn't
    look like an exact match, it's worth checking the notes on lettering variants.

    A couple of my Sigismund III Vasa coins below:
    Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth 3 Polker 1622 Sigismund III Vasa Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth 3 Polker 1622 Sigismund III Vasa copy.jpeg
    Livonia 1612 Solidus Sigismund III Vasa Polish Rule
    Livonia 1612 Solidus Sigismund III Vasa Polish Rule copy.jpeg
     
  4. Mkm5

    Mkm5 Well-Known Member

    Yes, I found the Numista page, which confirmed my confusion about these coins! Lots of different varieties from different countries.

    What does 3 polker equate to in thaler?
     
  5. The Eidolon

    The Eidolon Well-Known Member

    I tried to make sense of that some time ago based on grams of silver content without much success.
    I think 1 Talar, 1 Reichsthaler and 1 Speciesthaler are all different units.
    Here's Krause 1600s for Poland-Lithuania:
    Poland.jpg

    Here was my attempt at a conversion table.
    Based on weights, some of the denominations don't match up to the listed ratios though.
    Screen Shot 2021-02-18 at 2.42.22 PM.png
     
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