Howdy peeps, Here are two counterfeit 1889-CC Morgans: http://cgi.ebay.com/1889-CC-CARSON-CITY-NV-MORGAN-SILVER-DOLLAR-1-00-NR_W0QQitemZ160350401983 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150347801376 The 1st auction is still ongoing but the 2nd one has ended. I've messaged the buyer of the 1st one but it wouldn't hurt if others message them also. And for those that can't see why they are fake, compare them to a known authentic example: http://coinfacts.com/silver_dollars...organ_dollars/1889cc_morgan_silver_dollar.htm Just look at the position of the 1 in the date, in relation to the bust tip. :kewl: You should also notice the numbers are bigger than they should be (font size is larger) so this was made from a host coin that wasn't a 1889 and the counterfeiter recut the date to 1889 and they did a poor job of it. :goof: There are probably other tells so maybe the Morgan experts will weigh in and let us know what else to look for. :thumb: Ribbit
I think they know what they're selling due to this line: "BECAUSE OF THIS LACK OF KNOWLEDGE AGAIN, WE ARE SELLING FOR $1.00 NO RESERVE AS IS - NON RERURNABLE, THERE ARE MANY HUGE PICTURES FOR YOU TO SEE EVERY DETAIL" btw, they're both the same seller... I never would've caught that though
This listing has red flags everywhere: 1) "We....do not deal in coins......" 2) "We know absolutely nothing about grading, conditioning" 3) Bought from estate sale. 4) A rare coin yet the opening bid is $1 with no reserve. 5) Non-returnable. 6) Photos of diameter & weight of coin.......in my opinion these alone are indicators the coin is of questionable authenticity.
That is a good fake, same weight as it should be, but the positioning of the numbers compared to the neck is off, and the coloring is off as well. I've reported the item, and lets hope somebody else doesn't get burned.
I agree when somebody goes to the length they have showing weight and diameters etc. they're not sure and to me the color looks way off that's what struck me right away. It has a brushed nickel color rather than silver in my opinion.
Look in the seller's feedback for this auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150347801376 Then click on the buyer's name, which will take you to their Ebay and you can message them from there. Ribbit Ps: This was the buyer: http://myworld.ebay.com/fatdogs1
I would like to say that I do not believe the seller knew any better. But they still have an obligation to ensure what they sell is authentic but considering we have peeps bidding & rebidding on this numistrash, it's not surprising we have sellers that don't know any better either. :goofer: Ribbit
ROFL thanks HandsomeToad, I got this email today (lol)... Everybody is an expert. I will remove the ****ing coin so you can tell are your coin ******* you have emailed me over 100 times. PS I was hoping my 100th post would be something cool.
Sometimes it takes multiple messages to get through to some of the sellers on Ebay. Here's another one for you guys to ponder over: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=220453978228 It's a 1893-S and due to rarity you always start off thinking it's fake until proven authentic. Ribbit Ps: I got a nasty-o-gram this morning from the 1889-CC seller so I guess all the messages got to him. :goofer: Oh well!
Here is something I noticed. All the pictures are gone on the one that sold for $800 (June 3)except the pic of the coin on the scale. It is the exact same pic as the the coin in the june 22nd auction that was ended. Hmmm.
FYI - the buyer contacted me today: "Nice try!" I guess the buyer thinks I'm full of chit? :goof: I messaged him back and told him it's his money, not mine, so if he likes to throw it away, it's his to do with however he pleases but I can't afford to pay $800 for a fake koin and I don't know anyone that can, even if they have money to burn. Ribbit
