Here are some of my older cents from my type set. I had to polish the front of this slab. LOTS of scratches. Too bad I didn't look at the back. One of my Top 5 coins. The lowest grade of all my type set. This is a Red Book listed variety that NGC doesn't recognize for it's Registry type set. Considering some of the coins the do include, I think they missed the boat here. I left out my Braided Hair cent because: 1) It's a rather common coin; 2) Mine's definitely less than noteworthy.
Fantastic ! Very nice. One question - shouldn't the Middle Date large cents be "Matron Head 1816 - 1835" and "Matron Head Modified 1835 - 1839" ? The first "modified" heads were the "1835 Head of 1836", yes ?
I used the Red Book dates for this. In fact, I think you are correct. Some changes were begun earlier. But many of those changes were in letter/number sizes, not actual design changes. It starts getting a bit fuzzy as back as far as 1829. Sort of like the 1858 FE's with large letters and small letters.
I don't know how you guys were able to do that - attribute the coin from the picture alone - my eyes don't allow that. According to Breen, that S-184 in XF45 just about scratches the bottom end of the CC for the variety. Not bad! I think very few of my large cents make into the CC.
Beware... the XF45 on this coin is a TPG grade. The CC makers are more harsh; the same coin typically has a lower numerical grade.
Let's take a look at major changes to the face of Liberty (thus neglecting micro-variances a la die variety specialists). Large Cents in the period 1835-1839 have a special place in American coinage. Typically, design changes in circulating coinage show a dramatic, very clear difference (i.e. Draped Bust -> Classic Head -> Matron Head). The transition from Matron Head to Braided Hair was very different; we see an evolutionary / experimental trend in circulating coinage; normally, the Mint's experminents were restricted to patterns with a very limited audience. It boils down to this : 1835 - first major change to face of Liberty. Two distinct visages: old-school "Head of 1834" and new "Head of 1836" 1836 - no major changes 1837 - only one major change - plain hair cords to beaded hair cords. 1838 - no major changes 1839 - Four distinct visages: the same one which debuted in 1835*, Silly Head, Booby Head, and the "Head of 1840". With the debut of the "Head of 1840", the evolutionary process came to a close. Apparently, they had a design they liked; it lasted through the Braided Hair era until 1857. * It debuted in 1835 and coasted through '36, '37, and '38 with no major change except the beaded hair cords. On 1839 coins, this visage is known as "Head of 1838".
. You are right 900. That will play a role for sure. I was quoting the CC as listed in Breen's book. In fact, I've often asked myself what grading standards did Walter Breen go by in his book: EAC, TPG?
I think you forgot to mention the Petite head and Mature head switch around 1843(can't remember the actual year).
Jus' zeroin' in on the 1835-39 period... talkin' bout the change from one major type to another (Matron -> Braided).
Didn't want to get mired down in varieties per se. Rather, I was looking at the evolutionary process. I would be interested in knowing more about the anachronistic 1839 plain hair cord. It's clearly a "one off" and not part of a mega-trend.
Nice exchange of information. The Matron Heads are great looking coins. And your photo taking is great. Thanks for sharing.