A Few Coins from My Collection #2

Here's the two Washington quarter keys (not counting varieties).

The interesting part is the ANACS slab for the 1932-D.
1932-D 25C/SCRATCHED//EF 45/DETAILS
I asked ANACS what this meant.
The "SCRATCHED" part indicates larger scratches than would be expected from normal wear. Large enough to affect the grade BUT cannot be attributed to a harsh cleaning.
The "DETAILS" label should be familiar to all. It indicates the grade has been adjusted to accomodate a problem (in this case "SCRATCHED"). The "EF 45" is the final adjusted grade. It means that the coin would have graded higher if it weren't for the scratches, NOT that it's a "EF 45" coin that should be downgraded because of the scratches.
I would expect it to be worth less than a normal EF 45 coin. The scratches are undesirable.

I included the 1932-S just because it's a key.

 

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Those are nice specimens. I lack a 1932 D, One of only two holes in my Washington quarter collection (the other is an Alaska 2008 P, so I'm pretty sure I'll find one). That (the 32d) will probably be my next purchase....

Thanks for sharing!!

 

Really like that 32S, nice coins, and GREAT photos!
Can't wait to see more!

 

Both nice coins. I can't see the scratches on the '32 D. Did you think it would grade as "Details" when you submitted it?

Bruce

 

If I put the full sized image up the scratches would be quite obvious.
And, no, I didn't think I'd get a "DETAILED" crade on that coin.
Bummer.
I'm thinking replacement.

 

Really? I always thought of it the other way. I always thought the "details" in this case meant that the coin had the details of an EF-45, but is not gradeable due to the problem. On the older slabs, a problem coin might grade "Ef-40 details", net "VF-20"...meaning that the coin would have graded EF-40 if it weren't for the problem. Are you saying that they net-grade on the newer slabs too?

For what it's worth, it's a very nice coin and the scratches are barely noticable.

 

Here is the ANACS website
http://www.anacs.com/contentPages/Services.aspx



"The "details grade" reflects the amount of remaining detail on the coin, balancing actual wear with remaining sharpness. Such coins will be encapsulated in our new ANACS holder. The ANACS guarantee does not apply to problem coins."

I really like your 32-s! It has a lot of remaining luster!

 

the 32s looks very nice!

 

Are the quarters you are looking for, specifically the 2008 Alaska circulated or of better condition?

 

I am not a Washington collector so I'm no expert at grading them but the 32-S looks better than AU53. Maybe the marks on George's neck bring it down? Either way, I like the S and, based on the photos, like the color of both coins.

 

I think 53 is about right.

 

Nice coins!
Check out that 32S....it looks to me like there is a die crack coming out of the back of the eagles head...

Speedy

 

Here's a larger image of the obverse of the 1932-D.
I think you'll agree that the "scratched" designation is deserved.

Good eyes. I missed it.
Yes, I agree that it's a die crack (it's raised), but as nearly as I can tell it's limited to just that place.
I can't see any evidence of it extending any further.
A bit curious.

 

Well when you have studied that for years (ask Doug) you learn to pick out such things. Would you mind posting a close up of your mintmark on that coin?

Also, sometimes there is a die crack coming out of the leaves on the bottom towards the rim on the left hand side.
It all depends on the die crack, as on some it goes straight out of the birds head, and sometimes it goes up, and sometimes it goes down.

In other words - there were more dies used to make the 32s than most people thought/think.

Speedy

 

Here's the largest image I currently have.
[WARNING: This is a 400kb image.]

http://home.comcast.net/~dcderoo/25-1932s-r.jpg

 

Very interesting - it looks like the bottom of the die has had a lot of die polishing...when you look at this coin next check out the top of the mintmark. I've seen alot with what appears to be doubling, but since this one looks like it has been polished, I wonder if it would still show.

Speedy

 

I agree with the die polishing. I noticed that.
I'll look at the top too since it appears to be slightly out of focus.
That could cause any die polishing to get "lost".
And I'll look at the mintmark.
Best I've got is a 10x loupe, but I think that will be good enough.

I'm working on my half cents at the moment so it may be a day or two before I can revisit this coin.

 

oh it isn't any hurry - I've worked on this for years, but no one wants to agree with me LOL!

A 10x should be fine - on some a 5x is good.

Speedy

 

Yeah, probably; but of course this is when the coin is really blown up. I bet in hand, it isn't bad at all.

 

Kanga or anyone else,

Am I wrong regarding my perspective of ANACS details grade discussed earlier in this thread? I've only been an avid collector for two years or so, but I've always been certain that the details grade on ANACS slab's referred to what the coin would grade without the problem. So when someone of your knowlege says different, I really want to get to the bottom of it. I am open to the fact that I may very well be wrong.

I have been trying to research it, but other than the quote on the ANACS website, I haven't found any more information on whether or not the details grade is a net grade or not. Is there another thread that discusses this? Or maybe I misunderstood you? Has ANACS changed the definition of "details" over the years?

thanks,
John