1979 P Dollar, DDR? o DDO?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Carlos Arriaga, Jul 15, 2009.

  1. Carlos Arriaga

    Carlos Arriaga Senior Member

    Is this Dollar a DDR? I see doubling also on the oberse, but I'm not sure. Thank for your help.
     

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  3. justafarmer

    justafarmer Senior Member

    Machine Doubling
     
  4. just coins

    just coins New Member

    Machine doubling

    JC
     
  5. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    I agree !!!!

    Machine Doubling.
     
  6. Carlos Arriaga

    Carlos Arriaga Senior Member

    Machine Doubling (MD), It's the same Double Strike or MD is something different? Thank again for your time.
     
  7. rockdude

    rockdude Coin Collector

    Machine doubling. All listed under MD.
     
  8. Carlos Arriaga

    Carlos Arriaga Senior Member

    My question is... MACHINE DOUBLING mean DOUBLE STRIKE?
     
  9. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    Machine Doubling would be a "Double Strike", but a "Double Strike" is not a Doubled die.

    Doubled Die actually has doubling on the die, while machine doubling is when the die shifts slightly or moves for whatever reason to cause doubling on the coin.
    We have experts on here, that will be able to explain further if needed.
     
  10. justafarmer

    justafarmer Senior Member

    Did you play baseball as a kid? Did you ever hit a ball when you didn't have a good tight grip on the bat? Remember the vibration and how much it hurt in your arms? Machine doubling is due to the press not having a good tight grip on the die.
     
  11. Carlos Arriaga

    Carlos Arriaga Senior Member

    Machine doubling and Double Die is not the same, "That's clear to me". Thank for the explanation; then, Machine doubling can be a double strike. Or a simple strike shaking out the feature.
     
  12. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    It is doubled die, with a "D" at the end, not double die.
    I don't understand your definition of double strike, I've never heard of, or used that term.
    Machine doubling is when the die moves for whatever reason and it gives the appearance of doubling on the coin, like a doubled die, but there are differences.

    This should help you:

    http://www.cointalk.com/forum/t60298/
    http://www.cointalk.com/forum/t58425/
     
  13. Carlos Arriaga

    Carlos Arriaga Senior Member

    My definitions of double strike is that; "Hammering the planchet 2 times". The double image is not yet on the Die, but because the double shot the image on the planchet will be 2 times.
     
  14. rockdude

    rockdude Coin Collector

    If a coin fails to be properly ejected from the striking chamber after being stuck and the dies come down again to strike the coin again, a double strike ocurs. Double strikes can occur with the second strike off center or on-center. So, machine doubling and a double strike are not the same thing, they are completely different.
     
  15. Carlos Arriaga

    Carlos Arriaga Senior Member

    Thank Rockdude for that information. that is exactly what I want to know.
     
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