Morgan 1895-S Assumed VF?

F Details. But still worth getting graded IMO.

 

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Thanks....if someone stored a gold or silver coin in a velvet pouch 100 years ago, would that scratch to your knowledge ?

 

It could depends on what that velvet pouch has gone through for 100 years or more.

 

As mentioned, it would depend on what happened to the pouch. If it sat undisturbed in a drawer it would probably be fine. If some regularly handled it aggressively...probably not. Coins wrapped in cloth can be just fine...as long as the cloth isn't allowed to abrade the surface.

 

VF20, but I agree it probably won't straight grade.

 

Bottom line is bad things can happen when the surface integrity is breached, and that means by anything. What I've long coached the kids is don't peremptorily rule any coin out for it. Rather, recognize what your eyes are looking at, and assess the value accordingly. Don't get hung up on labels, like cleaned, tooled, or whizzed, because they're but abstractions. Keep your eyes on the coin. Is the luster compromised? Are there scratches on it? Describe what your eyes are seeing, and care less of how it got there. Leave those mysteries to the detectives among us, you're collecting coins.

 

When you rub a coin with a cloth you are actually grinding the dirt into the surface of the coin. Just the color of this coin makes me think it lost any skin it once had and is toning to a color that's not original. Still a nice looking coin. I like it.

 

It's not so much the cloth as it is dust. Dust tends to have a fairly high silica content and silica is harder than the silver. With a little bit of dust the cloth starts acting like a soft backed very fine sandpaper. And once contaminated by the dust it is pretty much impossible to get it all out of the cloth. Even with multiple washings the fibers of the cloth will still hold onto some of the dust.

Read it as "has the details of" So if it is AU55 details you think of it as "Has the details of an AU-55"

 

VF details. Harshly cleaned. A lot more than a cloth cleaned that coin. Abrasive cleaning marks all over.

 

Would you come to the same conclusion seeing these updated photos? I think these photos perhaps gives it a bit more justice? Or..? @Morgandude11 @CamaroDMD @johnmilton @tommyc03

 

Yes its a details coin cleaned/scratched

 

Yes. It is a harshly cleaned coin.

 

Yes, it is still the same as I mentioned before. Different photos can give a different perspective sometimes but the tell tale signs of the cleaning are still present.

 

My opinion hasn’t changed.