Hi! A friend of mine purchased this pattern Washington piece which looks like a Getz Pattern. I hadn’t heard about it before I found it in the RedBook. Does anyone have any idea if it would be authentic, what variety and if it’s rare or not? Thanks for any feedback!
Yup its pretty rare if real the 2x2 its in looks as old as the coin lol which might help it being authentic but coins like these are often faked this is definitely worth being certified.
That is such a cool token and a great history. Unfortunately, I believe that this is in fact a copy or fantasy piece. When I compared an actual coin to this one, I saw many identifiable features were conveniently 'worn' or 'mushy'. The one detail I could see that was very different and cannot be explained off as just a worn piece is flare shoulder pieces of washingtons coat. Take a look at the image below. I put a red box around the area I was comparing. The image on the left was taken from PCGS. The image on the right is the image you uploaded. WashingtonToken by BostonCoins posted Feb 10, 2021 at 3:47 PM
Well if its a copy it could be from 1792 still right?and if that it still has some collector premium.
Unless obscured by wear I am not seeing the fourth lapel button nor the slot for the top button. Also, on reverse, I am only seeing 5 arrows instead of 6. I am not an expert on these but comparisons can be telling.
Sorry to say but this is a counterfeit. As others have stated, the details don't match authentic examples at all. The grainyness, wire rims, weakness on random areas, and strange/inaccurate details give it away.
It most likely is from the 1950's or later. TONS of colonial era coins were copied in this timeframe as coin collecting boomed and people wanted copies and no one thought it was a big deal to copy these. Just from the photo you can tell its a cast copy, but then @BostonCoins did an excellent comparison for you.
The problem with these is like Continental currency dollars, for every genuine there are thousands of fakes.
Thought you had a problem hanging with us, you know the knowledgeable ones. We were too hard on your young soul. Tis always best to think twice before you cry wolf, Young man. As a referendum the piece screams fake.
This is the closest thing I have ever owned to the OP piece. It's by the same hand. I had it certified and sold it when I was a dealer. The coin should be really sharp and nice even with the damage because Getz was a very talented die sinker.
I don't believe it's by the same artist, That is a Conder token from Middlesex, and I believe the engraver for that was John Hancock of Birmingham.
