My tiniest Roman coin.

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by JayAg47, Feb 8, 2021.

  1. JayAg47

    JayAg47 Well-Known Member

    I got this tiny late Roman coin off ebay, and would like to know the attribution, however both the emperor's name and mint seems to be off the flan. It is now my smallest Roman coin at 10mm and 0.9g, dwarfed next to my largest Roman!
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  3. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    It looks like Arcadius to me.
     
  4. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Probably Arcadius. Here's a small one of his...

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  5. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    I enjoy the other end of the Roman History spectrum.

    Here are a couple small coins minted during times when Rome was pounding out and casting HUGE coins, which was typical of the Central Italia AES (Bronze) based precious metal / money system. The Aes Grave As was around 300g at this time. Huge contrast in the Early Roman Republic and Central Italia during these times.

    The original Sestertius = 2-1/2 As or 1/4 of a Denarius (10 As)

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    RR AR Sestertius After 211 BCE 12mm 1.0g Rome mint Roma r IIS - Dioscuri riding stars in ex ROMA Sear 46 Craw 44-7 RSC 4


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    RR Anon AR Sestertius 211-208 BC Roma Dioscuri S 46 Cr 44-7


    Republic AR Sestertius vs. Empire AE Sestertius
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    RR AR Sestertius 211-208BCE vs RE AE Sestertius Marcus Aurelius 161-180 CE
     
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  6. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    And, yeah, I have those AE's from the LRB period...

    How the MIGHTY had FALLEN.

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    RI Zeno 476-491 CE 2nd reign AE 10mm Monogram


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    Johannes
    AE nummus 1.4g 10mm
    Obv: DN IOHANN-ES PF AVG, pearl-diademed, draped bust right
    Rev: SALVS REI-PVBLICAE, Victory holding trophy and dragging captive, Chi-Rho to left
    RM in ex, Rome mint (struck 423-425 AD)
    Ref: RIC X 1913


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    RI Leo I 457-474 CE AE 4 10mm Salus Emp stdg hldg Globe and Standard


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    RI Valentinian III 425-455 CE AE 9mm Rome mint
     
  7. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    I often wonder about the purchasing power of tiny AE4's. Couldn't have been much.
     
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  8. JayAg47

    JayAg47 Well-Known Member

    tbh I feel bad for those late emperors not having the privilege of having large chunky coins like sestertius show realistic portraits of them, at best they had generic face, at worst a cartoonish crude image! I mean they could’ve asked a talented engraver to make a ‘medal’ portraying the actual face, however it wasn’t feasible for common use!
     
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  9. JayAg47

    JayAg47 Well-Known Member

    My understanding is that they’d carry a bag full of these tiny aes and weigh them as whole rather than count for the value! Although I’m not sure about their purchasing power though.
     
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  10. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Yes, they seem to have tried harder to make decent, though stylized, portraits on the gold solidi...
     
  11. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Nah, don't feel sorry for them. They were the TOP of the Heap for Human society at that time. Sad state of affairs that they all let it go bad... To me "Dark Ages" is a purdy appropriate term...
     
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  12. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    It's amazing to me that you guys know so much about ancients with so little detail. Keep um coming, I'm learning. Thanks.
     
  13. Plautilla

    Plautilla Member

    This is one of my prettiest little Roman coins. Victory dragging captive behind.
    This one is from Valentinian II minted in Constantinople.
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  14. Justin Lee

    Justin Lee I learn by doing

    I wanted to see if it could also be his brother, Honorius. But it appears that the VOT/MVLT reverse type in AE (AE4 in this case) were all struck by Arcadius while Honorius had his name on the AR & AU Vota coinage.

    These small coins of the late empire are pretty fun (and relatively cheap) to collect! Here's a little Arcadius that I tacked on to a purchase from LAC for around $10 USD. The reverse shows the brothers, Arcadius and Honorius, and their father, Theodosius I (RIC X Antioch 151).
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  15. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    I have a couple of these small AE4s. Most are missing most, if not all, of the legends but this is the best one. Easy to read and well centered.
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  16. DonnaML

    DonnaML Well-Known Member

    My tiniest is this Divus Maximian "Half-Follis" from 317/318 AD, with a tiny lion strutting proudly on the reverse. It's 14 mm.

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  17. Bradley Trotter

    Bradley Trotter Well-Known Member

    Here's my smallest late-Roman bronze; it's a Gratian AE4 with provenance from Giovanni Dattari's expansive collection of ancient coins.
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    Gratian
    Bronze AE4
    383 – 388 A.D.
    14 x 15mm
    Obverse: D N GRATIA-NVS P F AVG; pearl-diademed, draped, and cuirassed bust right.
    Reverse: VOT XX MVLT XXX surrounded by laurel wreath
    In ex. SM[??]
    Heraclea?
    Ex-Dattari
     
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