Grade the draped bust half cent!

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by johnny54321, Jun 22, 2009.

  1. johnny54321

    johnny54321 aspiring numismatist

    As you wish Mike. Here are some additional pics from various angles. The color shown in the photos is more reflective of the color of what the coin looks like in hand.

    As far as the surfaces go, they look to have some luster, but I really am not confident enough in my copper to know for sure. Either way, ANACS grade doesnt make sense to me. It should either receive a "details" grade for altered surfaces, or it should have graded AU if what I see is luster. Something is definitely going on with the obverse that isn't typical of a problem free surface with the luster worn off. I really think I need to have an expert give his opinion on it in hand.
     

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  3. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    Relatively well done recoloring job and silent/details based net grade is my best guess after reviewing the new pics. Would love to see the coin in hand to be more sure. Bottom Line to me: Still a nice coin and better than most of the date/issue.
     
  4. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    All I am going to say is very interesting coin and I enjoyed the discussion. I like OP pictures much better than the auction. Recolored or not - still a nice coin.
     
  5. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    Hey johnny, if you don't like the coloring job, just send that beauty to your ole' pal T$.... :D
    Still a nice coin, no matter what was done to it ;)
     
  6. johnny54321

    johnny54321 aspiring numismatist

    Thanks for the comments guys. I'm still trying to figure out the surface of this coin, and I'm at a total loss. It's kind of hard to illustrate via pictures. Can recolored coins still retain luster? Or maybe someone manipulted the surfaces before recoloring it? hmmmmmmmm.

    I have other recolored early copper coins, that have very flat looking surfaces as far as reflecting light is concerned. The surface on this one is anything but flat when rotating under angled light.
     
  7. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    Yes, recolored coins can retain luster.

    The "reflective" surfaces are likely a result of the stripping and recoloring.
     
  8. johnny54321

    johnny54321 aspiring numismatist

    I was thinking it might be a whiz job. Are there other cleaning methods used to simulate luster?
     
  9. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Not really, but there are things that are done to make a coin look better than it really is in that regard. Coin Care, Blue Ribbon, ordinary mineral oil - all can make a coin appear to have luster, or more luster, when it really doesn't.
     
  10. Fish

    Fish Half Cent Nut

    Some of the appearance of luster could also be from the heavy flowlining which is always seen in this late die state. Your photos do make the coin somewhat more attractive, but it still looks like it's been cleaned & recolored to me - seeing it in-hand might change my mind, but I doubt it.
     
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