Please Post your Dupondius Coin

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  1. Carthago

    Carthago Does this look infected to you?

    Here's a dupondius you won't see very often. Very rare with only a handful in private hands.

    574 grams!!

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    Dupondius about 280, Æ (574.1g, 81mm) Helmeted head of Roma r.; behind, mark of value II set horizontally. / Six-spoked wheel; between two spokes, II. Vecchi 65, TV 30, Sydenham 58, Crawford 24/2, HNI 325. Haeberlin p. 58 plates 23-24 (14 examples)

    Provenance
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    Bank Leu Auction 2, April 25, 1972 Lot 323
     
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  3. Clavdivs

    Clavdivs Well-Known Member

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    Nerva (96-8 AD), brass dupondius, Rome mint, struck Jan. - Sep. 97 AD, 28mm, 11.08g. Obverse: Radiate head of Nerva to right, legend: IMP NERVA CAES AVG PM TR P I COS III PP Reverse: Fortuna standing l., holding rudder and cornucopiae, legend: FORTVNA AVGVST / S C
     
  4. robinjojo

    robinjojo Well-Known Member

    Dare I do it again? This, after all, a dupondius. Oh well, why not, one more time.

    Livia, dupondius, 21-22 AD.
    RIC 47, 13.4 grams

    Struck during the reign of Tiberius, her son.

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    I have a few more that I hope to photograph before the turn of this century.
     
  5. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    So that would mean yours is the only one then, @Carthago? :D

    Totally jealous, that is an absolutely incredible coin!!
     
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  6. Dafydd

    Dafydd Supporter! Supporter

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    This is really not the most flattering of portraits !
    Vespasian, 69-79 Dupondius circa 74, Æ 26mm., 9.41g. Radiate head r. Rev. Felicitas standing l., holding caduceus and cornucopiae. C 153. RIC 716. VF Ex Navilles 2019.
     

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  7. Fugio1

    Fugio1 Well-Known Member

    @Carthago I was hoping you would post this, I almost PM'd you to please do so. Thanks for sharing this amazing coin.
     
  8. octavius

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  9. Blake Davis

    Blake Davis Well-Known Member

    Here is an Elagabalus dupondius, ca. 218 AD - RIC 285, 25mm, 12.11 grams. All of Elagabalus' dupondii are quite rare - this was among first of his type issued at the Rome mint, and shows a rather homely face. The dupondius at this point was like a coin without a purpose, but I still like the way the hair shows through the crown. The rather thin flan is typical of the Severan period dupondii I have handled. I rather like the dupondii of Severus Alexander and Maximinus although I do not have any examples from either emperor. In fact, I do not think I have ever seen a dupondius of Diadumenian, Maximus, Balbinus, Pupienus,
    Gordian I, Gordian II, or Gordian III as Caesar.

    Here is an interesting questions - What emperor struck the last dupondius?was it Gallienus, Postumus or someone else?
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  10. Julius Germanicus

    Julius Germanicus Well-Known Member

    The last one listed by Sear is one struck by Postumus in 269.
     
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  12. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    Good question. From what I've seen, they certainly exist for the joint reign period of Gallienus and Valerian. I'm not convinced by what I've seen from Gallienus's sole reign. That said, Göbl says they exist, and he would know better than me. I wonder, though, after seeing this example (6.98g) struck in billon:
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    The S C is the indicator that it's a dupondius, but in billon?!? Super weird. (For more sole reign weirdness, check out this coin: https://www.cointalk.com/threads/aurelian-as-upgrade.373773/#post-5465579 . There's some more discussion in that thread showing that the radiate bronzes of Aurelian are double sestertii, not dupondii as they're sometimes listed.)

    There are also some dupondii claimed for Claudius II, though again I'm not convinced. An example: https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3347758. Seems to me this could be a cut-down double sestertius.

    So I think @Julius Germanicus is right that Postumus probably has the best claim to having produced the last dupondii... unless those are reduced weight double sestertii? I don't know what the hoard evidence indicates.
     
  13. Julius Germanicus

    Julius Germanicus Well-Known Member

    The central government stopped issuing the traditional bronze coinage (i.e. Sestertii, Dupondii and Asses identified by "S C" on the reverse) in 264.
     
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  14. dougsmit

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    I suspect what we see as dupondii of Postumus may be barbarous imitations of double sestertii. I am unaware of hoard evidence showing that they were made during his reign or by his mints. I am not saying that there are no Postumus authorized dupondii but that this is just one more place where more study is needed.
     
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  15. Severus Alexander

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    Thanks, @Julius Germanicus - sounds right to me, but I'd be curious about the source(s) and evidence for that - also whether it applies to the dupondius specifically. Here's a late As from that time (not mine, though I have a Salonina from 260-62):
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    ... but the dupondius is awfully elusive! Might they have ended earlier?

    Seems very plausible, and fits with a search for "Postumus dupondius" on acsearch.
     
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  16. Robichari

    Robichari Active Member

    Hi! I have purchased this coin for 20 euros - it is low quality, but it is supposed dupondius of augustus with julius caesar. 18.2 g, 30 mm. It is real one? It is rare?

    Greetings from Poland,

    Robert
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  17. ambr0zie

    ambr0zie Dacian Taraboste

    That might be Augustus with Divus Julius Caesar from Thessalonica.
    Although ΘΕϹϹΑΛΟΝΙΚΕΩΝ legend should be there and the 2nd pic legend doesn't fit.
    Dupondius = a denomination used to describe Roman Imperial coins.
    There are some provincial coins that are also listed in RIC and have Imperial denominations also (I recently bought a Tiberius dupondius from the city of Commagene). But I don't think this is the case with Thessalonica coins.

    If my attribution is correct, that is not a rare coin, especially because the coin is quite worn.
     
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  18. Okidoki

    Okidoki Well-Known Member

    Hadrian Dupondius 117 AD Concordia
    Reference.
    RIC II, 538b; C. 260; BMC 1107; Strack 502; RIC 38

    Bust B1

    Obv. IMP CAES DIVI TRAIAN AVG F TRAIAN HADRIAN OPT AVG GER
    Radiate, cuirassed with exposed upper part of breastplate with balteus strap

    Rev. DAC PARTHICO P M TR P COS P P; CONCORDIA in ex. S C in ex.
    Concordia seated left on throne, holding out patera and resting on a figure of Spes; cornucopiae under throne.

    12.31gr
    28 mm
    12h
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  19. Okidoki

    Okidoki Well-Known Member

    Hadrian Dupondius Roma 124-28 AD Pegasus left
    Reference.
    RIC 659; Cohen 437; Strack 617

    Obv. HADRIANVS AVGVSTVS.
    Bust of Hadrian, radiate, draped on left shoulder, right.

    Rev. COS II S C
    Pegasus running left.

    15.75 gr
    28 mm
    6h
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  20. Robichari

    Robichari Active Member

    Thank You for your attribution! But the coins from Thessalonica have not legend DIVOS near the bust of Julius, and my coin is heavier - 18,2 g.

    Robert
     

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