1969D w/floating "E" on reverse.

Like I said from the original post, it is the same size as the "States" above. Look at that "E". It is the same shape and design. The E in "ONE CENT" is a different "E" design. The one in "States" has the same separation between the points. Take it easy guys. :hail:

 

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Well I was just trying to concur with you. Didn't expect the rest.

 

I would still like to know how this would happen. Has anyone ever found a coin like this before?

 

Well I guess things got a little crossed I appologize for that , you still didn't appologize for your remark you appologized for discussing the thread with me not clever enough well you not a man.

Now lets get back to the op's coin as far as the coin I have my doubts if it;s a dropped letter I think it's post mint damage somebody could have done something to that area

The E's hugging the rim seems odd to me but let see what others have to say . I could be wrong and Rock could be right.
JC

 

I think it is probably a dropped letter. The size and shape appear to be correct and it is incused (All dropped letters are incuse. They are the result of ard packed gunk falling out of a previously filled letter and getting caught between the die and a planchet. The letter shaped gunk gets forced INTO the planchet. The letter may be either normally oriented or reversed, but it will always be incuse.)

 

Thanks!

 

Nice find!

 

Jessash,

I had intended to weigh in on this subject a few days ago but other things came up! I am sorry!

The topic of the discussion is possibly a dropped letter but I have some doubts! You stated that the letter is the same size as the "E" in STATES which is also the same size as the "E's" in UNITED and AMERICA. However, I do not believe that that is the case! Using the picture, I did some measuring of the supposed dropped dropped letter (E) on your' coin and compared it size-wise to the "T" in CENT on your' coin. From what I could determine, the supposed dropped letter (E) is 66.6% of the size of the "T" in CENT. However, on several of Cents that I pulled from my pocket, the "E" in STATES is only about 61.5% of the size of the "T" in CENT! Now, I am not saying that my measurements were very accurate but even if I am off and the difference is only 4%, it is still fairly significant. I will concede, that due to excessive build up of the debris in a letter "E" in STATES, UNITED or AMERICA on the Die before falling out, then compression during the minting process, the possible dropped letter could have spread out to a larger dimension than my measurements. I think that the only way to solve this matter, would be to send to coin to Mike Diamond or to Mr. Wexler!


Frank

 

Ok

Now, with this in mind, could the letter's size have been changed due to the fact that it is on the rim? I am thinking in terms of the letter not being fully incused due to not getting full contact with a flat surface.
Also, do you think it has any premium to it?

 

Like Hutsman said and I feel the same way. We can;t give you an honest positive conclusion on your coin.

To answer your queson, of course there will be a nice premium on the coin if it's not a fake..Dropped letters are a very rare ocurance.

So If you think it;s a good possiblity it;s authentic send it in you have the coin in hand you could tell better then we can,but I have my doubts

Joe

 

"e pluribus unum" ?

 

it appeared skewed and not fully proportioned to me because of the rim contact

 

There's know way possible that it's the E in E pluribus unium the distence between the spread of the letter is not wide enough.

My finally conclusion it was done intentionally now this is my opinion that;s all.

 

Yep, your right, it still looks like a dropped letter.

 

No comment I plead the fifth. amendment

 

Well, I think I will have to have it sent in. I just think if someone did this intentionally, I would think they would have placed it near another "E" on the coin, not on the rim. Just my thoughts. Thanks for your help though guys!hya:

 

No not really it would have been more of a difficult task to do that he had the rim to help him out/
I wish you all the luck with the coin

JC

 

I can't decide if these are conjoined dropped letters or contact marks from another coin. Contact marks are usually strongest on the rim, since this is the area most vulnerable to contact damage. The fact that the letters are strongest in the field is consistent with a dropped filling. However, since we're dealing with two adjacent letters properly spaced, there should have been a least a little bit of intervening die fill which would have left a shallow depression connecting the two letters. Since the field is unmarked between the letters, this would be consistent with contact marks. A toss-up.

 

Did I miss something or what! I thought that we were dealing with what might be one dropped letter, an "E" from UNITED, STATES or AMERICA and which although is somewhat larger than the "E" in these words, does have the general appearance and having a high center bar.


Frank