1883 Proof Morgan Silver Dollar

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by LostDutchman, Jun 22, 2009.

  1. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    Hey gang!!

    I recently bought this coin out of an old collection raw (yikes I know right?). I was just packing it up to go to NGC and wanted to take a picture of it before I sent it off. This is what I came up with.

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  3. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    From those pics this is at least a PF68....
    GOSH, REALLY I DON'T SEE ANY FLAWS!
    You think you have a PF70???
    WOW!
    Can't wait to see, what it comes back at!
     
  4. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    I don't know about that! hahah!! It'd be nice, it definitely is a nice coin but I was thinking more like a 65-66.
     
  5. CrustyCoins

    CrustyCoins Twilight Photographer

    The devices don't look like they are frosty at all, are they pretty much the same color as the fields or is it just the photo?

    Very interesting and I'm curious how it will grade.
     
  6. Mark Feld

    Mark Feld Rare coin dealer

    The degree of hairlines is usually the major determinant of the grade for Proof coins. And hairlines usually don't show up well, if at all in images. I would bet, just based on the odds and populations, that 1) the coin has obvious flaws (in the form of hairlines) and 2) grades nowhere near a 70. And that's even if it's a nice/quality example.
     
  7. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    Would be nice to see this coin in hand.
    I'm not saying it would grade 70, and oh boy, that would really be something! But, I am very interested as to what this may come back as
     
  8. vipergts2

    vipergts2 Jester in hobby of kings

    WOW!, that is one fine looking coin. :bow: :high5:
     
  9. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    Wow, beautiful Morgan. I don't have a lot of experience grading these proofs but it sure is clean looking...I can see a mid-60s grade. I'd love to hear what it comes back as.
     
  10. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Wow , that's three wows in a row , I'd say a 65 but hard to tell from a picture , are there many hairlines that don't show up , if there isn't you just might get that 66 , and a 65-66 Proof Morgan is a fine coin anyone would love to have .
    rzage
     
  11. Greyford

    Greyford Senior Member

    Umm...... WOW!!!!:mouth::thumb:
     
  12. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Okay - just to add to the list - wow. Very nice indeed.
     
  13. johnny54321

    johnny54321 aspiring numismatist

    what a beauty!!
     
  14. just coins

    just coins New Member

    I would give it a PF 66 there are spotted areas on the cheek and near the hairlines there seems to be a nick in the nose unless it;s your pic a couple of flaws.

    JC
     
  15. mralexanderb

    mralexanderb Coin Collector

    I'll give it a WOW also. A beautiful coin, indeed.

    Bruce
     
  16. Mark Feld

    Mark Feld Rare coin dealer

    There is absolutely no way to provide a meaningful grade opinion for that coin based on those images. We have no idea how heavily (or lightly) hairlined it is.
     
  17. chip

    chip Novice collector

    shes a beaut! That would be one I would keep and not slab, 1039 1883 proofs, I would not be surprised if that came back as a 67, maybe they will send it back as a 63 just to make sure that you resubmit it?
     
  18. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    The best part about this piece is the fact that there really aren't any noticeable hairlines on the piece, very very few. Not all early proofs came with frosted devices like they do now.

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  19. just coins

    just coins New Member

    Dutch the third pic the reverse it looks cameo ,but i don't see it on the obverse is it a cameo what a beauty if it is ?

    The coin won't be a cameo if only one side of the coin is cameo both sides have to have the equal contrast to be considered a cameo coin

    JC
     
  20. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    The reverse is what i'll call a "semi cameo" while the obverse isn't. It's kind of like a Morgan with a really nice proof like reverse and just a nice normal obverse.
     
  21. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    WOW! This coin is amazing, after seeing those pics, I'd say at least PF65.
    This coin, is just...Well it is just WOW!
    I'd love to be able to own a proof morgan...Better start saving.. LOL
     
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