Grade my new Morgan

Discussion in 'What's it Worth' started by Dave1377, Jun 17, 2009.

  1. Dave1377

    Dave1377 Member

    No official grading with this but need your opinions to better hone my grading skills as well as my picture-taking ability.

    Any and all opinions, negative or positive, will be appreciated.
    Dave
     

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  3. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    It looks very nice, that is for sure!
    The fields are very clean, and the face isn't that beat up at all!
    I was wondering if I could see a picture for the obverse, like the reverse, displaying the coins true color.
    Looking at these pics, I'd say a MS64, but I'd like to see an accurate picture of the obverse before saying anything official :)
     
  4. AdamL

    AdamL Well-Known Member

    Yeah, MS64 is probably pretty close. The pictures aren't the greatest though.
     
  5. kevcoins

    kevcoins Senior Roll Sercher

  6. chip

    chip Novice collector

    from the picture and it may just be a light reflection but it looks like some light wear on the eagles breast, some obvious bag marks on Miss Liberties cheeks, I would give it a MS61, but it could range up to a 63 or down to a au59.
    From what I have seen photos can either enhance or detract from a coins real condition.
     
  7. Dave1377

    Dave1377 Member

    T$, I knew you'd be the first reply:thumb:
    How's this pic? This picture taking thing is not an exact science...took 5 new shots and only this one came out right:eek:
     

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  8. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    That helps a little... I honestly have to say it is a MS64, and maybe on a good day a 65.
    Here is an example of one of my MS63's, and yours seems to be much cleaner.
    1884 O NGC MS63.jpg
     
  9. Dave1377

    Dave1377 Member

    Thanks for all the responses! I think I got a nice bargain on this one:whistle: but either way, I do think it's a nice coin.

    T$, thanks for sharing your coin with us.
    Dave
     
  10. Dave1377

    Dave1377 Member

    I think I need new lights!
     
  11. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    No problem, and by the sounds of it, seems like you got a good deal? :D
    MS64, high end 64, for me! :D
    That is a really nice one, I have a MS64 coming in, I recently purchased one, so when I get the pics, I'll compare yours to mine :)
     
  12. Dave1377

    Dave1377 Member

    I paid what a MS 60 would go for at FMV, so I know I got a good deal.
    I will look forward to seeing your new coin(s).
    Dave
     
  13. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    I'll go with MS-64 , pics are a little dark , still a nice coin .
    rzage
     
  14. huntsman53

    huntsman53 Supporter**

    Due to the wear on Miss Liberty's hair above the ear and the light wear of rub on the Eagle's breast feathers, I would say AU-58 to possibly MS-60 at best!


    Frank
     
  15. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    Exactly what I thought at first, but I had to think, and pull out my morgans...
    There is no wear over the ear on my morgans, and doesn't seem to be any on his coin either, it can just be a weak strike, not all the morgans will have all the hairlines struck nicely and evenly.
    I don't think that there is any actual wear on this coin
     
  16. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    I thought the same thing as the ear is quite obvious , but the way the tpgs market grade plenty of high AU coins as MS .
    rzage:thumb:
     
  17. Morgan1878

    Morgan1878 For A Few Dollars More..

    Agree..wear above Liberty's ear eliminates any MS grade...AU-55-58 at best.
     
  18. tpsadler

    tpsadler Numismatist

    That is a very nice looking coin. You may want to set your White Balance on your camera as the color seems off. This could be the lights although the Reverse looks normal in the first photo. Looks to me I need a better photo of the Obverse showing better definition of the luster if any over the ear and cap. With the photo it could be a cleaned MS64 just not enough detail in the photo to make the call.
     
  19. Dave1377

    Dave1377 Member

    Thanks for all those responses. I guess the Red Book is right when it states that 5 people evaluating may give you 5 different grades for the same coin. :confused:

    Since the variance is so great I will try to post better pictures this evening after I adjust the light-balance on my camera.

    I had thought this would be a "slider" between a 64 and 65, but no less than a 63.
     
  20. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    With the pictures provided, I still think this is a mint state coin.
    It is a very clean example, and the suspicion that it has been cleaned might be because of your pics with the white balance off, which normally means the picture taker is hiding something (NOT SAYING YOU ARE, but this is what sellers do)
    Better pictures will always help, as we cannot see the coin in hand
     
  21. hrhomer

    hrhomer Member

    I tend to undergrade in these threads, but I said MS-64, and it looks like a decent guess...

    Joe
     
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