but why wasnt it graded a vam or dont they do that i think they do but i dont no every thing just a ?
Were is the indication on the label that's it's a vam don't they indicate what variety it is or at least a Vam number . I would not except that slab if I was expecting to have it listed on the PCGS label. When you sent the coin in did you specify to attribute the coin for a vam if you didn't maybe that;s why they did that? You have to tell them to attribute it otherwise they don't know to look for a Vam. A nice morgan it is. JC Formerly jazzcoins Joe
Very nice coin but the Obv is a bit rough for a MS -63 grade IMO.....And a VAM does cost extra and only by request
Nice example... Re: the label not reflecting the VAM... one has to ask and pay for that service AND PCGS only recognizes certain VAM's. Also...just like every CBH is an Overton(Die Marraiges)... all Morgans and Peace Dollars are VAMs(again, Die Marraiges). Some are just rarer and/or more popular than others...think Hot Lips and Scarface to name two. This Spitting Eagle VAM is popular but rather common...most I've seen are not noted on the slab label. As for the grade... while I don't neccasarily agree... much leeway is given to the CC Morgans... the TPG's tend to be more forgiving of bag marks on the coins from this mint. Think of the old westerns on TV and in the movies...of big bags of coins being tossed up on stagecoaches and wagons...then transported many miles over bumpy roads... or tossed onto a train and transported on rickety tracks over mountains and such... it is quite amazing that many survived to have little or no bags marks or nicks in the fields or on Liberty's cheek.
Matt, is that a old green label slab? I not sure they did VAMS on the label at that time. I seem to recall resubmitting a morgan rattler later for the VAM designation. Hmmm, makes working a little more enjoyable! Jim
I've never actually seen one of these, believe it or not, so thanks for posting. I think to be true to the era, someone needs to photoshop in a little brass spittoon off to the left...
The clean fields on the reverse, make up for it IMO. Also remember, it is a CC, TPG will give it a bump, it happens
this coin makes me kind of sad. It reminds me of a coin that my father gave me for Christmas 1978. The one he gave me was lower-end AU like 50 or so. I sold the coin when I left home to pay for the basics. I was given $17 for it. (Yes, I am still a little bitter at the dealer's offer.) Every time I see an 1891-CC, I remember that coin. It's probably the only coin that I ever actually regret selling.
Yes, the other are correct. You have to pay extra for the VAM designation. I didn't have the coin graded, I bought it this way. As for the marks, My photo setup tends to show every little mark and hit for some reason. I don't necessarily mind this because we sell most of our coins by photos and if a coin has marks I'd like them to see more then is really apparent so they will be surprised when they get it. I agree with the grade PCGS assigned. It looks like it probably came out of an GSA box at one point or another.
