AR Siglos with lots of testcuts and countermarks

Thanks for showing all these beautifull Sigloi, fellow CT members,
Unfortunally Pics dont pop up from jb_depew , Mat and robinjojo
Something to do with the problems of this site lately ?

I like my Siglos with a countermark on the side of the coin:

 

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I find it interesting that neither of my fourrees have any sign of a test mark or c/m.

 

Well, and this is only my opinion, what better way to "authenticate" a fake, than to fake a "countermark" especially. I mean who would question a countermark in those days??

 

I picked this one up because I thought the rev marks gave it an interesting symmetry with the obv, almost like a brockage/incuse. (From HJB "Junk Bin," CICF 2014.)

Persian Siglos are one of the few types that I think are oftentimes (not always!) improved by their banker's marks. There are some spectacular ones -- and spectacular combinations -- posted here!

 

Hi @Ignoramus Maximus,

You may be thinking of “The changing pattern of Achaemenid imperial coinage” by Christopher Tuplin.
https://www.academia.edu/7887267/The_changing_pattern_of_Achaemenid_imperial_coinage

- Broucheion

 

Thanks for the link, @Broucheion.

That particular paper I hád downloaded.

I browsed it just now, and I believe the author mentions the paper I had in mind in passing. If memory serves right it was Corfu 2010: 'Die sogenannten Achamenidischen Bogenschutzenmunzen: Die Herkunft von Dareikoi und Sigloi'.
( The so-called Achaemenid archer-coins: the origin of dareikoi and sigloi).
Not sure if it ever was translated. I thought it was a good read; among other things, it had an interesting numerical and geographical breakdown of sigloi hoard-finds.

Sadly, I have no active subscription to Academia right now. Also, I'm flat broke, so a renewal will have to wait.

Reminds me (in a non-sequitur sort of way) of the (alleged) story of the Pantikapaion bronzes. At some point all circulating coins of the issue were countermarked and the non-countermarked were no longer valid. They then happily continued the series with the countermark readily engraved into the dies before they were struck.

I bid on this one, but, sadly, didn't win it:

pic. Roma Numismatics.

 

Hi @Ignoramus Maximus,

Thank you for the lead. Here is the link. If you want me to send you the file PM me.

https://www.academia.edu/17412876/D...enmünzen_Die_Herkunft_von_Dareikoi_und_Sigloi

- Broucheion

 

...Can't believe it's just me, but I've always had good luck with a free subscription to academia.edu. (Did upload two versions of a paper; don't know if that helped.) I've only ever had a paid subscription for a month at a time, but they've always let me download anything I wanted, along with following authors and saving stuff to their 'my library.