double florin's

hya:
I have 2 double florin's 1st one 1887 the other 1890 but i am as you all know no good at grading can you help and tell me the diffrence between roman and arabic florin's
Thank's dave
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Roman and Arabic refer to the date. ie, 1856 vs MDCCCLVI

 

Just so you arer not confused Dave the ones you have there are Arabic :thumb: The Roman would look like MDCCCLVI

 

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But which do i have ?
Roman

 

Um no as I said in the post above yours the ones you have are the Arabic

 

you got there before me

ok not roman candid camera

 

Arabic vs Roman

I'm afraid I'm going to have to disagree with De Orc--always a dangerous move. I agree with him that you have an "Arabic" 1887, but for a different reason.

My understanding is that this difference applies only to the 1887 double florin. (Double florins were issued for only 4 years--1887 to 1890--I guess the Victorian public was not ready for decimalization!) The first dies had a capital I in the date instead of the more normal Arabic numeral 1. So it read "I887" instead of "1887". I think it was a mistake; at any rate, the Mint changed it during the year.

Later,

John

 

Grading a Queen Victoria jubilee head

Hi Dave,

UK grading benchmarks (which are different from US benchmarks and probably different again from Irish benchmarks) call for the lace around the Queen's head to be intact for a VF grade. On the other hand, the medal on her shoulder could have disappeared altogether and the coin would still grade as Fine.

So your coins are between F and VF; would you believe GF?

Usual caveat: I'm an enthusiast, not an expert.

Later,

John

 

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Understand the the rom and arabic but know notting about the lace but i am looking at the ear and the necklace which are very clear
And i cannot understand vg iam going to bed and hope that you can come to agree on the grade i paid 20 euro a coin for them was i done

 

Just saw this thread. I agree with John here. This applies only to the 1887 and it is an I in the date instead of 1. And as to grade, I think a solid Fine should do it.

 

Grading by UK standards, I would agree with gF for them. Grading by American standards, I would say they qualify for VF.

 

Yes you are quite right John I should have mentioned the Roman I but it was late and I was tired :whistle:

 

thanks

:high5:
Thank's to eveyone for the grade and the history
Dave