04-S Barber Half, To slab or not to slab

or I just made a bunch of them look bad... lol

thanks for the thoughts!!!

 

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I would rate the coin as a G plus, not quite enough detail for a VG, but for seven dollars you cannnot go wrong, nice buy!

 

chip, I'd love to buy coins from you!!!

 

Being a little tough on the coin, but we are all entitled to our own opinion...
So just asking, what more do you need to see to make is a VG

 

I think that some of the detail of the liberty headband would have to be visible to rise to a VG, but my only source for those halfs is the 65 blue book. I am just recently getting back into collecting so please excuse me until I get more up to speed

 

Well chip, most people's grading standards have changed, so I'd get re-acclimated with grading coins, and paying attention to NGC and PCGS grading standards as well, as that is what I go buy most occasions, I also use the standards for grading in the 09 red book

 

chip, like me, you will adjust to the current grading standards. In 1963 there was no grade of AU, let alone a series of Mint State grades. Much has changed, (to quote a Beatles song) some for better, some forever.

 

chip, like me, you will adjust to the current grading standards. In 1963 there was no grade of AU, let alone a series of Mint State grades. Much has changed, (to quote a Beatles song) some for better, some forever.

very true. a coin was either circulated or it wasnt, but back before the mint was as scrupulous in handling coins as they seem to have become many uncirculated coins were marked and dinged, I have found coins in circulation that had as clear fields as many uncirculated coins.

The 70 point system is imo an improvement, but I think that the ms70 coin should be an ideal a theoretical perfect coin that even the best looking coins fall a bit short of.

 

The coin is a F12 all day long.

http://coins.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=69014&Lot_No=64367#Photo


This one sold Jan 25, 2009 for $460.00

And yes don't doubt Frank (Treashunt) in the Barber Series. The man knows his Barbers.

 

I think we are both cut from the same cloth, brother!!!

 

The coin is VG-10 by my standards because of the overall wear, but will almost CERTAINLY slab as F-12 at any TPG.

 

Well, I pretty much eliminated the option of slabbing it, at least for the near future. It just looks too darn good with the rest of my set.

 

It might market grade F-10-12 , BUT by ANA standards VG-8 , Still an excellant deal and a nice looking original coin , just wondering what price guide did you use .
rzage

 

If most of your set is in the Dansco then it's probably not worth slabbing. When it comes time to sell there are probably more buyers willing to pay for the grade if it is slabbed but since it is not heavily counterfeited there should be no problem selling it raw also.

From the Heritage Archives: http://coins.ha.com/

F15: Seems to have a bit more detail than yours



F12: Again a little more detail



VG10: Seems about right



VG8:

 

Crusty:
Great posting!

Thanks a real bunch.

Frank

Hey, someone else with a bunch of them.

 

I may be new to this forum...but I am not a newbie to coins...with that said...

IMHO...the OP's coin looks like a very solid VG10-F12 from the pics. Since the major TPG's have tightened up a bit over the past year...slabbing is basically a crapshoot. I've seen coins that were superior to already slabbed coins getting low grades or bodybagging...

As for pricing for sale... check out recent auctions...especially of PCGS graded Barber halves and quarters in the F-AU range. There are many "sleeper" keys that are blowing all the price guides away...been that way for a while now. It is anyone's guess as to why the guides are not adjusting to the results.

Recently I have seen a number of dates realizing double grey sheet and more. There are just more collectors seeking problem free mid ranges circs in holders right now, than there are examples available. The 1909-O quarter is a good example... if anyone were to offer me problem-free/original VF or better examples of this date at full Red Book or Trends...I wouldn't think twice.

With all that said...Josh ... great score and enjoy the coin anyway that pleases you... I am sure it will look great in your Dansco.