1921 Peace Dollar - Need your Help!!

Hello?

Hello all-
Just tried a few things to get my feet wet on this BB. I'm still too stupid to understand the better parts yet of communicating here but I hope to keep trying.

Got overwhelmed with walls of text and found myself thinking about too many things at once.

SO~If the coin brings you no joy, why would you want it?

Yes, a couple of hundred years pre-BC ago a doubter devised how to measure whether his bosses crown was made of ALL gold or if he had been ripped off.

Just got me thinking that anyone with nothing more complex than 2,000 year old tech could not replicate homegrown devices to address current questions.

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As for a magnet?

Most likely make a dent in it if you hit it hard enough.

But you would have to push the magnet into the coin if it were "real".

If the coin PULLS the magnet into it, no harm done to the fake.

 

A quick hint about magnets. Back in the '50's, while searching for the elusive 1943 Lincoln cent not made of steel, after ripping up some blown loud speakers to acquire a really STRONG one, learned there is no need to actually touch the coin.

Put a hanky, or some other soft piece of cloth between the magnet and the object being tested.

No touch, no dent. Magnets work through cloth.

If you are hoping to return the coin they may mention it was not returned in the condition they last had it in. If they are honest you have done them harm. If they tried to rip you off they wont want the thing back anyway. Either way you will have a hanky to sob into.

 

I must be pretty slow today, but I am not quit understanding the whole magent bit. Are you saying that this is just to check if it is made with steel, hence making it a fake? So if it is attracted to the magnet at all, then it is fake, and if it doesnt then it is real? If you are saying that I could put a cloth between the two then how would I be damaging the coin? Sorry about having to keep asking for more clarification. I am not very good with the computer short hand yet, but I really do appreciate all of your help. You all seem to know so much about coins that I had one more unrelated question that noone has yet given an answer to me yet. I have also bought an lower grade (G4) 1881 CC morgan dollar and the weight seems about a gram less than what the book calls them to be. The coin is pretty worn, so with that being said, could it still be a legit coin or if it is that much lighter does that mean it must be a fake?

 

The suggestion about checking it with a magnet is because a fair number of the counterfeits coming from China are actually using a magnetic alloy rather than silver.

An altered date is not something you have to worry about. Because of the hub details that are only found on the high relief design (Which are correct on this coin), the only other coin whose date you could alter would be a 1922 high relief Matte Proof.

And for those who mentioned the "heavy wear" this coin has had, I don't see very much wear at all. GD called it an XF and I think he is right, but I'm thinking a typical XF rather than a low XF.

 

As my old teacher used to say to me~"I'll type slower this time."

If it is attracted by a magnet it can not be made from the same stuff as a real 1921.


If it is NOT attracted by a magnet it is time to try another test.

 

ok, thanks again.

does anyone have any thoughts on what I said earlier about a worn morgan dollar in G4 grade that seems to weigh almost 1 gram less than the actual published weight of a typical morgan. Could this be from all the wear or does this make it a fake. By the way, everything else on it seems legit

 

For wear, 1 gram isn't too bad of a loss. I would guess (blindly) that it is authentic.

 

Looks real to me. I cross referenced the scans of my own 1921 Peace; the rims look the same.

 

You should probably pick up a copy of A Guide Book to Peace Dollars. It will give you a lot of information on all the Peace dollars and major varieties.

RWB