Was this a "good dip"?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by matchmaker, Jun 9, 2009.

  1. matchmaker

    matchmaker Senior Member

    I dont dip many coins worth over $100. But, on this one I had to give it a try. Algae Green is just not an attractive color. Was this a good result? Did its appeal decrease? Would someone prefer original and green to dipped and white?

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  3. shojo

    shojo Member

    I like it dipped, but then again I don't worry about resale value, just what I like to look at.
     
  4. byrd740

    byrd740 Numismatist

    Without having the coin in hand I would say it was a good dip. I just wouldn't do anything else to it.
     
  5. mgChevelle

    mgChevelle AMERICAN

    good dip IMO. looks a lot better
     
  6. matchmaker

    matchmaker Senior Member


    That coin came out of an old Dansco Album and unfortunately that is the long term effect those albums have on silver. Makes me reallly want to rethink storing coins in a 7070. I wonder if the intercept albums have that same problem.
     
  7. byrd740

    byrd740 Numismatist

    As long as oxygen can get to it, it will eventually tone. You have to remember that toning is oxidation.
     
  8. just coins

    just coins New Member

    I would never dip a coin . I will always leave it to it's natural life no matter what. Hey different strokes for different folks.The only dipping i would do is a dip in the pool without the coin and that would be a good dip.

    JC
     

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  9. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    but the cardboard in the Dansco albums definitely speeds up the process. I would NEVER put anything of real value in a Dansco, simply because of this fact and the fact that the slide marks are killer on surfaces of really beautiful coins.

    As far as the dip, here's my issue. If before you dip a coin, it has luster underneath the toning, and when dipped the toning is gone, but so is much of the luster, then it is NOT a good dip.

    I have seen many many coins in my time that were very nice UNC coins but have been overdipped simply because someone didn't like toning. In many cases, though, it does more harm than good, but IMHO only as far as luster is concerned. Unfortunately, luster is a big determining factor for grade.

    Just some food for thought on my 2000th post. Weeeeeeeeee!
     
  10. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    neutralize that dip

    OK it has been done. I think I like the after photo better. It is difficult to say without actually holding the coin in hand.

    We all know that each dip removes luster & coins with repeated dips just get more & more dull. Please make certain that the dip is completely removed from the coin & the coin surface is neutralized before storing it away. You can do this with a water rinse & long soak in water containing some baking soda & then one final rinse. Otherwise, the coin may develop the same ugly finish over time & may need to be dipped again in the future.

    Perhaps Desert Gem could recommend a process for neutralizing a dip.

    Very best regards,
    collect89


    P.S. That commerative is frequently found with smooth creamy luster.
     
  11. wiggam007

    wiggam007 Cut-Rate Parasite

    Sorry to kind of take over this thread a bit, but I was looking at getting the intercept type album. Are these any more desirable over the Dansco 7070?
     
  12. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    What did you dip it in? I dip my coins in Miracle Whip(R) (J/K!). I could go for either one, actually. Nice coin.
     
  13. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    okay, my opinion:
    I liked it before.
    Pre-dip it probably could have slabbed at least MS-60.

    Now, it looks AU.

    But, that is just my opinion, and I wear glasses.
    ;)
     
  14. Razor

    Razor Senior Member

    Hype IMO. Their gas absorbing materials and coatings can't last forever. Exactly what harmful molecules they absorb, and for how long, are open questions. They don't have any 3rd-party independent test results to verify their claims. If you're going to keep coins in an album for 20 years and the "protection" wears off after 5, what's that worth to you?

    I wouldn't buy any of their stuff. Their business plan is pure PT Barnum and IMO they're selling snake oil to the unwitting.
     
  15. Cloudsweeper99

    Cloudsweeper99 Treasure Hunter

    I'm happy you said that because I was thinking the same thing, but didn't trust my ability enough to say it. I thought the dip turned an MS coin into an AU coin.

    Thanks!
     
  16. Goldstone

    Goldstone Digging for Gold

    what do you dip in?
     
  17. just coins

    just coins New Member

    I only use cheese dip and not on my coin never dip them
    JC
     

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  18. matchmaker

    matchmaker Senior Member


    In hand it looked AU before and after the Dip. The AU before was "Algae Ugly"
     
  19. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor

    I would use plentiful water rinse with no sodium bicarbonate. Any dip solution is readily water soluble. I prefer to then use a quick rinse with acetone, holding the coin vertical until the acetone runs off and evaporates, and then put the coin into a protective holder.

    Be aware that using a dip you remove the protective patina and the silver is in its most active state, and often a corresponding change in a short period is blamed on the dip or rinse, when actually it is the fault of the holder not protecting against environmental factors.

    Jim
     
  20. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    The material in question was developed and extensively tested by Lucent Bell Labs almost 30 years ago. It was found to be 100% effective.
     
  21. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    Thanks for the advice. I have a follow up question.

    If you think that someone had recently dipped a nickel that you bought, would you still only use a water rinse or would you soak it with sodium bicarbonate?

    The reason I ask is that I have witnessed a couple nickels turn brown after owning them for a year or two. I had a suspicion that they were recently dipped.

    Very best regards,
    collect89
     
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