Value of some Morgan VAM's??

Discussion in 'What's it Worth' started by huntsman53, May 31, 2009.

  1. huntsman53

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    Hey CT Folks,

    I picked up three Morgans yesterday that are VAM's and was wondering if anyone could help me with their values! I can't post pictures of the coins as my pictures never come out showing how nice that the coins really are and I can't seem to capture all of the details that make them VAM's. Therefore, I will give the grades and a little bit of information about them!

    1. 1878-P "8TF" Morgan Dollar (Spear Point Variety) VAM-1 in AU-50 uncleaned.

    2. 1882-O Morgan Dollar VAM-38A in AU-55 uncleaned. This coin has the strongest and most Die Clashing that I have ever seen on any Morgan Dollar and more than the example on VAMWorld.

    3. 1891-CC Morgan Dollar VAM-3 in VF-25 uncleaned.


    Thanks ahead of time for the help!


    Frank
     
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  3. raider34

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    The 78' has a rarity of 2 so it doesn't look like it brings too much of a premium Here's an AU 50 on eBay for $62 - 1878 ANACS AU50 Morgan Dollar 8 TF VAM 1 - eBay (item 350050791327 end time Jun-13-09 15:29:56 PDT)

    I would like to see the 38A! VAM world says there are only 2 known and a rarity of 6, could only find one auction and it's for a 63, only $900 BIN:bigeyes:1882 O VAM 38A PCGS MS63 Morgan R6 VAM!!! Super Rare!! - eBay (item 130308677963 end time May-31-09 17:44:46 PDT)

    Sorry but I can't really help with the 91' CC, it is in the top 100 so it should bring a premium, but I cant find any prices for lower grade coins.
     
  4. huntsman53

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    raider,

    Thanks for the information! I will see if I can get some decent pics of the 1882-O VAM-38A and post them. I would think that the coin was struck in an earlier Die Stage than the example on VAMworld due to the excessive Die Clashing. However, to see the Clashed "M" for the Designer's Initials takes some imagination but I am pretty sure that I can make it out somewhat. There are some other things that don't quite jive with the example but this coin has much, much more Die Clashing than the example. I am no expert by any means in identifying VAM's but this is the most Die Clashed Morgan that I think that I have ever seen!


    Frank
     
  5. raider34

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    Very cool, can't wait to see the pics!
     
  6. huntsman53

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    Raider,

    I tried the best I could with the pics but they still don't show all of the Die Clashing (which includes several Letters), the Die Cracks, Die Breaks, Polished out details (such as several Leaves in the Wreath) that this coin has! Although they may be somewhat hard to see, practically every close-up and cropped pic has Die Clashing or Die Cracks or Die Breaks or Polished out details! Also, due to lighting problems which made a lot of the pics have a yellowish look, I converted all of the pics to the "Greyscale".

    Bear with me on the pictures as there are 27 total and will take quite a few posts to get them all downloaded. I may have Doug or Speedy or another Moderator move them to an album.


    Frank
     

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  12. raider34

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    :bigeyes: You were not lying Frank, that's the strongest clashed Morgan I've ever seen! Especially by the right wreath on the reverse. I agree it looks like the 38A, it also has clashing on the obv by the mouth that isn't listed in the 38A, but that usually isn't a major clash spot, so it probably wasn't listed. Great pics too, I know those clashed letters are hard to capture. Do you plan on sending it in for grading? From the info I could find it looks like only 2 have ever been authenticated.
     
  13. huntsman53

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    raider,

    The Die Clashing by the mouth is only one area of many extra areas that have Die Clashing! Although it is hard to see, there is Die Clashing at the front of Miss Liberty's nose and did you check out the swirling Die Clashes from the Eagle's left wing all the way to the back top of it's head? Also, there is Die Clashing all along the bun in Miss Liberty's hair as well. Those are just a few of the Die Clashes!

    I doubt that I will have the coin long enough to send it off for certification, grading and attributing as ever since my divorce, I have had to scrape and scrape to keep my head above water, financially! However, I may send it to Mr. Ashmore or Rob Joyce to see what they think about the coin or possibly Mr. Van Allen. I just wish that I could get the actual POP number and a value for the coin! I think that the POP is actually higher than the "2 POP" that you noted but it is probably under ten (10). In any case, I doubt that there is another VAM-38A specimen like it!


    Frank
     
  14. raider34

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    You got that right!
    I caught the clashing on the hair, and on the left wing, good eye on the clash by the nose, lol it must have took me 5 tries before I saw it. I agree there is probably more out there then 2, but I've only seen 1 other one. Good luck on selling it, I'm sure there will be a buyer for that one, great find.
     
  15. huntsman53

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    raider,

    Thanks for all of the kudos on the coin and the support!

    I am about ready to sell the coin along with the 1878-P "8TF" Morgan Dollar (Spear Point Variety) VAM-1 and the 1891-CC "Spitting Eagle" Morgan Dollar VAM-3! I am undecided as to whether to offer it on eBay or here in the Open Forum and/or possibly on the C.C. Sell Forum, any advice? I really hate to sell the VAM's and especially the 1882-O "VAM-38A" Morgan but I still have lots of bills backed-up due to the divorce and really need the money! I just don't understand the low interest level for the 1882-O "VAM-38A" since it is a R-6rarity, has a low POP and has such awesome Die Clashing!


    Frank
     
  16. raider34

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    I would suggest posting them on the open forum here, any other coin sites you use, and also VAMworld has a Buy/Sell section (which might be the best place), if you're trying to sell them quick. Also I would put them up on eBay as a Buy it Now for the prices you want, not as an auction though because VAMs can be hard to move, especially if there raw.
    Good Luck Frank, I hope they all sell!
     
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