NL 2009: 400 Years Netherlands-Manhattan

In early April the Dutch mint will issue a €5 coin dedicated to "400 Years Netherlands-Manhattan". In 1609 Henry Hudson, working for the Dutch VOC landed at a site which now is known as Manhattan.

I mentioned that issue in a different topic http://www.cointalk.com/forum/showpost.php?p=515660&postcount=28 but since it may be interesting for others, why not start a new thread ... The coin will be available at face (silver-coated copper) and also as proof pieces (€5 silver, €10 gold) for collectors.

Christian

 

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From the latest issue of MuntPers, the magazine of the Royal Dutch Mint:
Voor verzamelaars verschijnt een 5 euro herdenkingsmunt in massief Zilver Proof en een 10 euro herdenkingsmunt in Goud Proof. Ook zal een luxe Prestigeset uitkomen waarin de herdenkingsmunt in al haar verschijningsvormen zal worden opgenomen. Dit is een samenwerkingsproject met de United States Mint.

The "regular" €5 coin will probably have a diameter of 29 mm. The silver coin is 33 mm, the gold coin is 22.5 mm. Note that, according to the announcement above, the pieces will also be available in a "prestige set" made in cooperation with the US Mint.



Christian

 

The base metal version will be available at face, in a coincard, as from 7 April.

As mentioned above, the silver and gold pieces will cost more. Note that the Dutch Mint will usually not accept orders from outside the EU. But I guess various dealers will have the coins ...



Christian

 

That is really cool.

 

Sad to see the 5 Euro coin go to base metal now, all my earlier Dutch coins are in silver. Too bad the 10 Euro will sell for more than face too. Sadly there goes my Netherlands collection.

 

How can someone in the US purchase on of these once they come out? Does the Dutch mint sell them to collectors kind of like the US mint or would somewhere like eBay be better?

 

Out of the April issue of the Numismatist:

To reserve coins contact:

The Coin and Currency Institute, Inc.
PO Box1057
Clifton,NJ 07014

Phone Toll Free:
800-421-1866 ​

 

The Dutch coins could be purchased at the post office, and I know collectors there that will get them for you. Same with Germany - in fact I have gotten coins from the OP here on this thread.

 

Well, this is not the first one; they started that last year. The 2008 Architecture Fiver was the first piece with that "setup". (And the €10 gold coins have never been available at face.) It's about the same for Portugal - the €5 coins which are available at face have been Cu-N since 2008. If you want silver, you pay more.

Well, at least with NL and PT the collector still has a choice - in the US you either pay about 35 dollars for a $1 silver coin, or you won't get the coin at all. Pretty much the same in France where you pay about 45 euro for a €10 silver piece.

Unfortunately the Cu-Ni version of the Dutch collector coins is smaller than the silver version. So it may be hard to view all the details ...

Christian

 

Maybe I will just stick to my German coins since the Dutch have doffed me off with no silver at face.

 

Personally I do not care whether Ag or Cu-Ni is used for such issues. They are not made for circulation anyway but for collectors. And a collector still has the choice: Cu-Ni in a coincard (same size as the silver coins until 2007), or a (larger) silver proof piece at a surcharge. Those who collect coins because of the designs, or because they are interested in the "background" of an issue, can get the coincard version - those who think that the "precious" metal content is decisive can collect other versions.

In Germany (Fed. Rep.) the government went from Ag to Cu-Ni for the special 5 DM issues about 30 years ago, in late 1979. Without offering a silver version though; even the proof pieces were Cu-Ni. Collectors apparently did not like this much, so in 1987 they started making 10 DM silver issues instead of 5 DM Cu-Ni commems. The current German €10 collector coins are silver too but, unlike "real" euro coins, do not circulate either.

Christian

 

But I like the silver, it is more attractive and has more intrinsic value.



Came in a half metre sized postcard, with a bunch of shredded Euro note stuffing:thumb:

 

Ah yes, I vaguely remember that. And agreed, silver coins have a somewhat "warmer" tone or look than copper-nickel coins. But as for the intrinsic value, well, I have noticed that sometimes people come here and ask, I have this relatively old coin, is there any silver in it? Hm, I don't care much about that ...

Except when I buy a silver coin and accidentally get the Cu-Ni version.

Christian

 

A very nice coin. However I feel it is too small for the details to be appreciated without a magnifying glass. They should have minted a 50mm 20-Euro 2-oz silver coin.

 

If you buy the silver proof version of that Manhattan coin, with its 33 mm diameter, you can actually see many of the details. The base metal version (Ø 29 mm) is a little too small indeed.

And the new piece (Dutch-Japanese relations, to be issued in August I think), won't really have that problem. Fewer details, and not that appealing in my opinion:



Christian

 

I have the 33mm and it is still too small. Your original coin pic measures 50mm on my screen ... now that's a perfect size!

If the texture of the ropes (?) are actually raised surfaces, it could be kind of nice. But yeah the design reminds me of pretzels and Life Savers.

 

The last edition was the port of mahattan they would trade from.
Wel anyway i think the new holland japan coin is suposed to be a sailors knot if you join two coins. i seen a very nice pic online.
um lets see here it is:
http://www.zilverenvijfje.nl/index.aspx?ID=WE09AMK

it looks realy nice, what do you guy's think.
i hope to have one of the coins when they come out.

 

Oh, yes! You are very correct.

And welcome to the forums!

For those who are lazy to follow the link--

 

Or see my post #15 in this topic. At the Open Mint Day (Dag van de Munt) in Utrecht last Saturday you could sign up for the silver proof coin, the gold proof coin, and a "prestige set" (the two coins in a luxury box - €699). Mintages are 45,000 for the silver piece (25,000 of those go to Japan) and 9,000 for the gold coin. There will be max. 500 of those prestige sets.

Well, I bought some coins on that day (as usual, several dealers had their booths there), so as for US coins, I finally have the new Lincoln pennies and territorial quarters. Have not ordered this "Nederland-Japan" coin yet though. The Manhattan design I liked even before I saw a photo of the actual coin; with this new one I don't know ...

Christian

 

Very cool. Thanks for posting. Do you know if the US Mint will come out with a joint project similar to the Leaf Ericson coins, and have one commemorative silver dollar and one 5 Euro silver coin? If so, that will be the set that I would like to get. Even though I am originally from the Netherlands, I usually don't care for the Dutch designs of their coins, but I like the Manhattan one.

Robert