1909 vdb, Is it a weak strike?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Stupidcoinguy, Jun 3, 2009.

  1. Stupidcoinguy

    Stupidcoinguy Senior Member

    If you look at the bottom of the coin you will see a light V.D.B. Now if you look at the coin other than the shine job on it, you will see that it really is a quality coin. So is this a light strike? Possibly worth a little extra? Or is that just some strange ware over the years?
     

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  3. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    It looks like a well struck coin to me. There was probably some grease or other material in the VDB when it was struck. Not all that unusual and, if anything, it probably subtracts a little from the value.

    BYW, I hope your "shine job on it" does not mean that you cleaned the coin. That would really cut the value.
     
  4. just coins

    just coins New Member

    There 's a JFK half dollor with no JFK initials polished die that is a popular coin in that series. I don't no about the 1909 cent with no VDB initials through this was due to grease that's why it's weak on the initials the coin is a very well struck coin.
    JC
     
  5. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    I am not a expert.

    Looks normal to me! but check your 1910-P there is a few 10-P VDB that have been found and graded
     
  6. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Have you got any info you can share on those?
     
  7. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    The last 10-P I seen was a part of Jack Lee collection about a 2 year ago and when Coin World did a write up about his collection. and if remember it was correctly 1 of less than 15-20 known. I have all my book packed up as I am get ready to move to a new old restore house I been working on.
     
  8. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    A search of "Coin World" archives produced no meaningful results for either 1910 vdb or jack lee 1910. However, I do not think the archives go prior to 2008.
     
  9. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

  10. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    Rim it may have been in 2006 or 2007 January Fun fest catalogs.but do know it was right after Coin World did a big 5 or 6 page write up on Jack Lee. I know it was there old style new paper article. it has be listed somewhere . but all my older book are packed up.I have got to go to my buddy coin shop today and I will ask him. I know he will know he was going to bid on it but the $$$$ blew him out of the water.
     
  11. Stupidcoinguy

    Stupidcoinguy Senior Member


    It was like that before I got it. But I payed very little for it.
     
  12. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    rims
    1910 VDB was by a family who name was not published they were just sell the grandfathers collection.It wholesaled thur Stacks 2005 it was listed and America Northeast copper & note the book was $15.00 and a seat at auction was$250.00.that is all he could rember about 10VDB. but he was sure what grade it was I think it was Au.It was rumored that buyer was Fred Weinberg
     
  13. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    I found 3 1910- Lincoln singles sold by Stacks during 2005. None said anything about VDB.
     
  14. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    If I had the Stacks Book I would post a photo.
     
  15. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

  16. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    I have been there and yesterday.I too could not find the listing.I not making it up or lie but I know what I seen just unable to find where I seen it.
     
  17. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Here is another article I found.

    If there were a 1910- VDB slabbed, I strongly suspect that Mr. Lange would be well aware of it.
     
  18. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    It may have been a Private Stack Members sale

    at almost 60yr old I lucky to rember yesterday.

    ****what I rember is I open his shop on the weekend the owner went to the auction.and the next time we talked about the item in that auction is that the $$$$ being payed were to rich for him!
    I will find the catalog some how. and post the coin as soon as we can find it.
    100% true Rims Mr Lange would know but I am 100% sure if was graded or raw it has been 3 maybe 4 year ago I seen the catalog.
     
  19. Carlos Arriaga

    Carlos Arriaga Senior Member

    I don't think that, the VDB was part of the REVERSE HUB on 1909. Reason, The Lincolns did not have that mark from the start and in the following years that mark was moved to the oberse. Then, if the VDB was in another station of the die; simply the impression was made with different amount of force. Same happening many times to the Mint mark.
     
  20. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    It was put on the hub for the 1909's (and later for the 1918's to present). If you read my quote from Lange. he says that it was;
     
  21. Carlos Arriaga

    Carlos Arriaga Senior Member

    Did you put attention where the VDB is? "OFF CENTER" in relation with the rest of the reverse details. What that mean?... simply. Was not on the working hub. This kind of error doesn't happen when some body design a hub.
     
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