Two new Chinese Acquisitions

The first one I am pretty sure is KM# 440.1, but the second one, I have absolutly no idea.

 

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And while I am on the topic I thought that this was an intersting find for me. I didn't even realize that Macao used to be a Portugeuse Colony. The coin was minted in Singapore.

 

The first one does appear to be Chia Ch'ing, though there are a few that look like it besides KM 440.1

The second is from Ch'ien Lung (1736-1795 AD)

Edit: They both appear to be from the Hupu mint, so you are probably correct on the KM 440.1

 

Thanks for the info! I see know why I couldn't find it, I don't own a 18th Century book.

 

I know nothing about these coins.
But I have a few similar examples. My wife wants to use them for buttons!

So I checked here. Are they collectible or are they buttons?


Any interest expressed may induce me to take and post photos.

 

We all would like you to post your coins. These are indeed collectibles (to nerds like us) and fancy buttons to fashion designers. :goofer:

 

I agree with v. Post some pics and let us see them. Any coin is a colectable. For the most part Chinese Cash are not worth very much but hey they are still nice to have.:hug:

 

A bit more ID on these coins, based on Hartill's Cast Chinese Coins (much better than Krause)

Coin #1:
Jia Qing Tong bao 1 cash, cast brass. 1798-1802. H22.448
Board of Works Beijing mint, North Branch

Coin #2:
Qian Long Tong bao 1 cash, cast brass. 17668-73. H22.213
Board of Revenue Beijing mint, West Branch

I'm pretty confident about the IDs, although without the coins in hand it's impossible to be certain.

Hupu mint is another name for Board of Revenue mint. After 1726, there were 4 branches (North, South, East and West). These and the Iron Coin Mint all used the Boo Chiowan reverse, with minor differences in both obverse and reverse to indicate the branch of production. These differences were known as privy marks.

 

Thanks!

 

Thanks for that information, I did not know the relationship between Hupu and Board of Revenue. Good to know.

 

A bit more info:

Kungpu mint is another name for Board of Works mint, Beijing. After 1775 (date not certain), privy marks were introduced to differenciate between the Old Branch, New Branch and Auxiliary Furnaces.

This proliferation of mints and privy marks is one reason why there are so many Qing coins listed by Hartill (1521) compared with the other prolific dynasties (Northern Song - 523 listings, Southern Song - 911 listings). It also adds greatly to the overall fascination of collecting Chinese cash coins.

 

WOW! Your just chock-full of info. Thanks!